SN VOICE questions..how to fit on panel!

loss1234

hey there.... i dont have quite enough room for every function on the sn voice...i might need to cut down to around 8 pots...what can i cut out?

are there are any non-essential jacks or pots?

thanks

numbernone · Joined: Aug 16, 2006 Posts: 477 Location: new york city

get a bigger Panel Very Happy

Or squeeze your layout down. within 5 mins of power up you will wish you hadnt left out X.

But I should shut up, cuz I still have 2 SNs to build! Embarassed

loss1234 · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:57 am Post subject:

sorry i am almost done with the panel...i dont have the real estate or money right now for bigger panels...and i dont think i am going to use every single jack and knob always...what i might do is add a multiple/556 mixer mod like someone else did and put it on a 1 wide panel...frac sure is small!!

fluxmonkey · Joined: Jun 24, 2005 Posts: 708 Location: cleve

have you looked at fonik's euro version: http://www.modular.fonik.de/Page23.html ? elegant as usual, i've lifted a couple of his euro designs straight to frac.

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fonik · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject:

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject:

Dan, have you tried using a drafting program like QCad for knocking up some front panel designs? QCad doesn't cost much, and it's a lot easier to use than FPD. Failing that there is Cenon (I don't know what computer you use, but Cenon only works on Linux and Mac OS).

It could help you design your panels.

loss1234 · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject:

thanks v-un-v i will check into that

beats eyeing it i am sure

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject:

The thing with QCad, Dan, is that it is a proper CAD drafting program (it looks very much like autocad btw, but is much easier to use). As it is a proper drafting program, when you specify a 10mm radius circle, the final dxf file will have a circle with a radius of 10mm (as long as you keep the scale at 1:1 of course!)

Luka · Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.

ill check out cenon
thanks for the tip v

Unkie Al · Joined: Nov 02, 2007 Posts: 24 Location: Washington DC

Howzabout stacked concentric pots? Two separate pots, one common axis.
http://static.zoovy.com/img/guitarelectronics/W180-H180-Bffffff/newstacked_500x500.jpg

Photon · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject:

I was able to fit all onto a frac format panel. I'll try to remember and take a picture when I get home tonight.

p.

Tim Servo

loss1234 · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject:

photon-id love to see that picture....looks like for now i am using a 2 wide and a 1 wide together to make a 3 wide panel to fit everything on...

pots-

i dont get how to use concentric pots for the sn...when you turn the knob it turns both pots right? so how can i apply that? i cant think of any parameters on the sn voice that would fit that...that id want to have turned at the same value all the time....

i did use them in a filter i built this summer though

EdisonRex · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject:

concentric pots don't have to turn at the same time. I remember them well on a Soundcraft mixer I used in the 80s when I was doing sound for bands a lot. The mixer had an arrangement where the outer ring was the frequency for the EQ and the inner was the amplitude. It worked very well.

Danno Gee Ray · Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1351 Location: Telford, PA USA

On older car radios, the outer ring would be tone or balance while the inner would be volume. Independantly adjustable, knid of like one stacked on top of the other.

Photon · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject:

Heres the panel. crap photo (sorry my camera is a toy), but I think you get the idea. The pcb isn't wired to the panel yet bec. I haven't figured out how to wire the on-on-on switches to work as 3-way selectors (paging Mr. Herrmann...) as seen on Foniks' SNV.

hope this gives you some ideas.
Peter

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goldenechos · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:27 am Post subject:

Photon · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:50 am Post subject:

Thanks Tony!
I sure appreciate it.

Peter

goldenechos · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:54 am Post subject:

fonik · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:

Photon · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject:

Thanks Fonik.
It wasn't the German that was confusing. I didn't understand your diagram.

-peter

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bambam · Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 60 Location: australia

Has anyone figured out how to use a 7211 switch to select VCO or Noise or a mix of both. I have been trying and trying but so far i have VCO or Noise or LFO Sad

Adam-V · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject:

I don't think you need to waste a 7211 switch on this.

The logic for selection of noise/VCO/both is as follows:

Adam-V · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject:

Actually, since pin 27 is always low for selection of noise/pulse or mix you don't even need to be that complex.

The attached hastily put together diagram shows wiring for a standard DPDT on-off-on switch which will give you selection of noise, mix or pulse.

Assuming pin 27 is tied to ground.

In the up position, pin 25 is held high, 26 is held low. (Noise is selected)
In the centre position, pins 25 and 26 are held high. (Mix is selected)
in the down position, Pins 25 and 26 are held low. (Pulse is selected)

Cheers,
Adam-V

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loss1234 · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject:

PHOTON

hoW MANY u WIDE IS YOUR FRAC PANEL?

4 wide? 5 wide?

thanks.

it looks like a great layout

the reason i ask is i am trying to come up with some kind of standard for my frac panels (how many pots i can fit on average on a single or double u panel)

thanks