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bugbrand

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject:
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Hey, I'm working on a VCO along quite similar lines to Thomas Henry's LMVCO (in AS21C) and wondered how you'd go about adding a sync input???
My presumption would be to momentarily short the cap - you could do that with a 4016 gate but that'd be big and clunky (unless the other gates were used?). So, perhaps with a JFET?
Any pointers to schematics perhaps?
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frijitz
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject:
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| bugbrand wrote: | | Hey, I'm working on a VCO along quite similar lines to Thomas Henry's LMVCO (in AS21C) and wondered how you'd go about adding a sync input??? |
Usually easy to put in something simple, but could you give us a bit more information on what the core is like? Tri? Saw? What kind of switch?
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bugbrand

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frijitz
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:53 am Post subject:
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| bugbrand wrote: | | Its a design for a reasonably simple modulation osc - ie, I'm not too worried about perfect tracking. The Osc core is straight from the LM13700 datasheet | Hi Bug --
I haven't worked with that exact circuit, but I can give you a couple of ideas. There are basically two ways to go about adding sync. One is to short the cap, as you asked about, and the other is to force a transition in the current reversing switch.
First you need to generate a triggering pulse. You can do this by feeding the Sync In to an RC differentiator driving a comparator. A Saw or Pulse input will then give you a big pulse out of the comparator.
To reset the cap, put a JFET plus a series resistor (22k or so) across the cap and drive its gate from the comparator through a 100k resistor.
To reset the switch, you could try using a JFET connected from +15V through a series resistor to R7. You can see a similar method, which modulates the trip point of the switch, here (scroll way down):
http://home.comcast.net/~ijfritz/sy_cir4.htm
Hope this is enough to get you started. I've used both methods, but not with your exact circuit. It usually takes a bit of adjusting to get a sync circuit to work well, since operation depends on the driving signal to some extent.
Please keep us posted on how this works for you.
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bugbrand

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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:59 am Post subject:
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Thanks a lot for the ideas and details Ian! That's a real help.
I think I'll certainly look first at the JFet method - that's along the lines I was thinking about, I just needed some firming up! Definitely time to bread board some more.
I'm hoping this may work out as a nice compact module - primarily aimed at LFO modulation, but of course with possibility to be a droning osc too. I envisage a bank of two or three of them with cross modulation between them all (..it'd be a lot easier if I banana systems allowed normalisation - it'll have to be switches). Anyways, if the design moves forward well I'd really love to turn this into a proper pcb and share it around.. _________________ http://www.bugbrand.co.uk
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intellijel
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| Why does the JFET option require a series resistor to the gate? I have seen this in other circuits as well but I do not understand why you would need to limit the current to a fet gate. |
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