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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:03 am    Post subject: On The Run Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

An emulation of the famous Pink Floyd "On the run" sequencer in The Dark Side of The moon.

Play the Note A2 with low dynamic then move the Wheel up to opening filters and active aftertouch for the LFO's

This performance isn't still perfect but i hope enough close to the original,
main problem for me was capture exactly the tuned notes played on the VCS3 by Roger Waters, because i don't know well how build a note sequence yet.

Feel freely to suggest tips of course


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you want to see some 'on he run's (for NM Classic), maybe to see how others did it :

http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/010_NordModular/011_Patches/Smart_Mark/

http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/010_NordModular/011_Patches/Trawinski_Aka_(Radek)/

There are a few more that I catalogued under 'Grant' but I can't find those in the archive.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It seems like doing 'on the run' is some sort of G1 tradition.
I just spent some enjoyable time researching the little EMS synthesisers, the VCS3 and the suitcase-like Synthi-A. I never played one but always admired the design.
They have a quirky envelope, capable of self-triggering but otherwise, an AHR type. The 3 oscillators (#3 is biased toward LFO type use) each have two mixable waveforms and a shape control. Oscillator 1 has ramp and a variable sine, the alternate sine shape is simply a full wave rectified sine.
The filter is (reportedly) a little bland and unassuming, early (pre 1974) units had an 18dB slope and they all had a slight slew problem (frequency slow to change with fast CV).
And must not forget that wonderful patch panel, where replacement pins cost more than decent patch cords and you have to retune the oscillators after making a new connection Shocked
So armed with all my research and a fresh copy of Dark Side Of The Moon, I have done a little G2 'on the run'. It sort of takes care of itself but if you feel the need, Filter cutoff is morphed to the mod wheel.
I think the origional was multitracked unless he had 3 or more synthi-A's


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This exactly is!

Thanks one time again g2ian Wink Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very very close Ian !

The highhats might need some extra tweaking, guess it's a real drummer on the record (the speed seems to vary a bit ?). And then of course the scratches and ticks my record has :-)

I tried putting in a metal noise osc instead of the regular noise, but that one costs a bit too much unfortunately.

This patch brings my laptop to a grinding halt, it's almost untweakable for me - maybe it thinks it to hot to compute (it would be quite right about that).

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the comments guys, and the advice Jan. I just updated the post (DARKNOODLE2) with some minor changes.

Shifted the HiHat and background noise into the FX area, freeing some dsp and allowing small improvements. The hats now use a separate metal oscillator and are humanised with slow random lfo waves for velocity and timing (using mod delays). The background noise gets just a little more complicated with a randomB generator.
In the main section have just added a couple of modulated pan modules to shift Synthi 2 and 3 around in space. The timeline LFO has also been slowed to about a minute.
Hopefully it will be more tweakable now as well Smile .
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

g2ian wrote:
I just updated the post (DARKNOODLE2) with some minor changes..


I knew you would, too much silence happened :-)

I'm at work now, but I'll certainly check it out this evening.

(*later, at home, but the sun is the same, ehm, relative, older*)

Wow, this is so close I can almost hear the voices and the footsteps, excellent !

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

g2ian wrote:
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So armed with all my research and a fresh copy of Dark Side Of The Moon, I have done a little G2 'on the run'. It sort of takes care of itself but if you feel the need, Filter cutoff is morphed to the mod wheel.
I think the origional was multitracked unless he had 3 or more synthi-A's


wow- how did I miss this thread?

I have a DSOTM DVD documentary where Dave Gilmore talks about how that sequence was created. He doesn't go into much detail though, regarding filters, oscs, etc, but it's interesting to hear/see first hand.

I wish I could make a copy of that DVD sequence and post it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I have a DSOTM DVD documentary where Dave Gilmore talks about how that sequence was created.

Saw that one.
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He doesn't go into much detail though, regarding filters, oscs, etc, but it's interesting to hear/see first hand.

But it has a nice buildup with running it slower and faster making it easier to hear what is going on - it seemed very natural in the movie Very Happy

Glad to see you're home again safe.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

[quote="Blue Hell"]
cappy2112 wrote:
I have a DSOTM DVD documentary where Dave Gilmore talks about how that sequence was created.

Saw that one.
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He doesn't go into much detail though, regarding filters, oscs, etc, but it's interesting to hear/see first hand.

But it has a nice buildup with running it slower and faster making it easier to hear what is going on - it seemed very natural in the movie Very Happy

Glad to see you're home again safe.[/quote

I have also seen a similar one where Townsend shows how the arpeggiator sequence in "Won't Get Fooled Again" (or was it Baba Oreilly?) was done with an Arp 2600.
I think this one is also on YouTube
(of course, what isn't on You Tube these days?)
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