| What is your relation to motoring? |
| Have never driven, and dont' plan to do so in the future |
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10% |
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| Have never driven, but may well do so in the future |
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| Have been a driver, but not anymore |
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| Drive a car/bike strictly on a need-to basis |
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| Drive a car/bike as needed, and sometimes for leisure (holidays etc.) |
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| Enjoy cars/bikes as an enthusiast |
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Scott Stites
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject:
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I'm still reeling from Oenyaw's excellent post.....
My '95 Pontiac Grand Am was the only new car I ever bought. Other than the occasional problem with the cooling system, and the trannie giving out at 120,000 miles, it served me in good stead until the engine self-destructed 27 miles south of the 200,000 mile mark.
Rather than buy a new American car, which are mostly plastic (the one's I can afford), and not wanting to spend as much as required to buy a new Japanese car, my wife and I decided to buy a used low mileage 2001 BMW 325i, which cost as much as a new American car. The logic being it would not depreciate as soon as we drove it off the lot, and being German made....well, there you go.
Not sure if it was the best decision - for the most part, the car has run extremely well, but there's a constant stream of sensor replacements that have fed on the wallet. It was purchased shortly before petrol began streaking upward, so there's that consideration as well.
Of course, it turned quickly into my wife's car. I drive a 2000 Saturn POS that gets me where I'm going and back.
I used to use the car more often than I do now. Now I strictly drive to work and back, no where else. My wife works at a grocers, so she buys the food there and that's pretty much it.
Now I'd prefer not to own a car at all, but that is impossible where I live, unless I win the lottery and never have to work again. It's exactly 30 miles from my driveway to work. It's 24 miles for my wife. We can't carpool because our schedules are so diverse. Petrol going up the way it has done has severely affected our bottom line - it's becoming difficult to make ends meet. If it goes up much more, my wife's job will become pointless - she'll make enough to get to work and back, but nothing else. At the time we purchased our home, natural gas was much more economical than electricity for heating in the winter. That situation has reversed along with everything else, and we're stuck there as well.
There is no public transportation between our jobs and home, period. Too far by bicycle, and the temperature extremes of the climate here would make it deadly in the winter, and miserable from July through September on motorcycle. We're literally caught by the short hairs. _________________ I hear my inside
The mechanized hum of another world
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dmosc
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject:
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An opportunity to brag about my car? Couldn't resist.
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi:
I'm kind of a Subaru nut, not entirely sure how that happened. AWD + Manual Transmission + Turbo = Fun. |
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:48 am Post subject:
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Very nice, nice colour as well.
They use these for high speed pursuit police cars here.
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gsanchez

Joined: May 05, 2008 Posts: 77 Location: Location:
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:28 am Post subject:
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My current car:
Peugeot 206 - 2006
My fantasy transport:
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dmosc
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:09 am Post subject:
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| BobTheDog wrote: | Very nice, nice colour as well.
They use these for high speed pursuit police cars here.
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You mean one of these?
Can't blame em for having good taste. |
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Inventor

Joined: Oct 13, 2007 Posts: 1852 Location: Florida, USA
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BananaPlug

Joined: Jul 04, 2007 Posts: 207 Location: Philly
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:39 am Post subject:
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Yeah, I had a white '65 beetle for several years, and before that I had a '67 Kharmann Ghia for a few of years. Had a Saab (and a commute) for awhile too but now I hardly ever drive and I use car sharing. I work at home, there are local shops, it's about 3.5 miles to the center of the city and a block and half to a trolley line.
I wouldn't mind having one of these though:
http://www.acecraftusa.com/index.html
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Oenyaw

Joined: Aug 16, 2007 Posts: 243 Location: Greenville, FL
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:26 am Post subject:
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Past history.
My first car was a 1972 T-bird. It had a 454 4 barrell. It would get up to 45 mph just idleing on its own. The exhaust manifold blew off the side of the engine.
Second car was a 1974 Vega Hatchback. It was wrecked, and a passenger would have to get in from the drivers side and climb across. I learned to drive a stick with that car. I really loved it. Problem was, why spend any money at all fixing a car that cost me $200.
Third car was a 1977 Plymouth Grand Fury. You could land airplanes on the hood, it was so big. Drove it into the ground. I paid $350 for it and learned alot about fixing cars, and learned never to buy another Chrysler motor product. I threw a rod, just like in the Blues Brothers movie. Left it off the highway between Dallas and Ft. Worth.
Forth car was a dream. 1975 Chevy Impala. It was 11 years old when I bouth it and it had 10,000 miles. Still smelled like a new car. It got me through college delivering pizzas, which is not good for any car. Got rid of it when I graduated.
Which brings me to auto #5. When I graduated from FSU, I was 33 years old. Never had a new car. I bought a Ford Ranger. I needed a truck, really liked it, and it ended up being a good choice. I kept it until I got the Scion. 13 years. Something like 150,000 miles. (True story:) One of the paranoias of getting new wheels was that since I never had a new car, and had neve been in an accident, I was terrified that I would total the damn thing as soon as I got it. The first day, I brought it home, parked it outside (lived in a close-to-downtown neighborhood in Tallahassee.) That night, someone keyed it. One fine line of paint scraped off the door on the passenger side. I walked out and saw it instantly. I looked at it and thought (honestly) "if that's what is going to happen to my new truck, then I'm ok with it." Nothing else ever happened to it after that. (Except for the minor scrapes I did).
Then I got the Scion. The first time I puled into a gas station to fillit up, I opened the door and hit a concrete block. Put a dime sized dent in the door.
Then I just got the bike. First ride home, I fell off, dented the logo on the gas tank. Second day, rear ended, broke the tail light.
I'm not to good at first days, huh?  _________________ http://www.oenyaw.com |
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seraph
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Joined: Jun 21, 2003 Posts: 10150 Location: Firenze, Italy
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:19 am Post subject:
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our family car is a Toyota Yaris Verso
plus we got 2 motorbikes:
a Peugeot Elystar
and a Vespa ET4
my first car was an old Fiat 500 (given to me by my grandfather. first I burned the engine, then I replaced it and had a fatal accident...for the car, of course. I was a teenager )
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Jyoti

Joined: Mar 07, 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Derby, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:23 am Post subject:
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| seraph wrote: | our family car is a Toyota Yaris Verso
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Ahhh, my Mum's got a normal Yaris - fantastic car! I borrowed it while mine was being serviced and just really enjoyed the driving position and visibility.  _________________ My music: here! |
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 1012 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject:
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| seraph wrote: | my first car was an old Fiat 500 (given to me by my grandfather. first I burned the engine, then I replaced it and had a fatal accident...for the car, of course. I was a teenager )
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Too bad your Fiat 500 went bust - a true Italian icon. So, are you going to swap the Yaris for the new one?
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Oenyaw

Joined: Aug 16, 2007 Posts: 243 Location: Greenville, FL
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject:
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the thought of being able to drive a Vespa around Firenze makes me sooooo jealous. _________________ http://www.oenyaw.com |
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seraph
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Joined: Jun 21, 2003 Posts: 10150 Location: Firenze, Italy
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject:
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Too bad your Fiat 500 went bust - a true Italian icon. So, are you going to swap the Yaris for the new one?  |
I don't think so  _________________ homepage - forum - myspace - virb - berkleemusic
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seraph
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject:
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| Oenyaw wrote: | | the thought of being able to drive a Vespa around Firenze makes me sooooo jealous. |
really the temperature here is around 100F at noon and 80F at midnight and very humid. think about it I know you live in Florida but... _________________ homepage - forum - myspace - virb - berkleemusic
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BobTheDog
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Joined: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 1453 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:08 am Post subject:
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| DrJustice wrote: | | seraph wrote: | my first car was an old Fiat 500 (given to me by my grandfather. first I burned the engine, then I replaced it and had a fatal accident...for the car, of course. I was a teenager )
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Too bad your Fiat 500 went bust - a true Italian icon. So, are you going to swap the Yaris for the new one?
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My Sister has one of these, white with green stripes, it is so lovely you want to hug it.
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Blue Hell
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:38 am Post subject:
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| BobTheDog wrote: | Unfortunately it talks to you which is taking things too far I think  |
Such things need repair!! _________________ Jan |
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 1012 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject:
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| Blue Hell wrote: | | BobTheDog wrote: | Unfortunately it talks to you which is taking things too far I think  |
Such things need repair!! |
Maybe that's what it's trying to say?
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Blue Hell
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject:
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| DrJustice wrote: | | Maybe that's what it's trying to say? |
Dunno, normal cars have a light for that, the one you don't see, or maybe you do but then you'll think it's nothing ... still remember that old Peugeot that we went to France with ... on the way home it was almost like something lit up on the dashboard, not much later the thing sounded like the exhaust pipe had fallen off ... it was out of oil of course (but it couldn't possibly be that as it was filled up when we left, but it used quite a bit apparently). The last bit of the trip was by train, and we had an unplanned night in a hotel in Liège.
Anyway, maybe under such conditions cars should speak
Come to think of it, when I was a student there was this guy who just got his drivers license and then bought a 2CV. He had heard that the highest gear was the third on that car and off he went on the high way ... that car lasted him less than 100 km.
Anyway, maybe the car should have spoken to him ... shift me up ...
Still I don't like devices that talk ... I had this USB hub that would tell me wjen something got connected, that one definitely needed repair! _________________ Jan |
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seraph
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject:
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| Blue Hell wrote: | 2CV. He had heard that the highest gear was the third on that car and off he went on the high way ... that car lasted him less than 100 km.
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did it have 4 gears
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Blue Hell
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject:
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Hey cute, you found one with a Dutch license plate. And near the sea .. where he wanted to go to. His was red though and it did have four gears ... he thought it was normal for the car to be a bit noisy. _________________ Jan |
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Norman Phay

Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 151 Location: North-East England
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:41 am Post subject:
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First car was a Wolseley 1100, (luxury version of what was sold in the st8s as the "Austin America" &/or the MG1100/1300. It wasn't very reliable, but it was a delightful little thing otherwise. I wish I still had it.
Then I had a Ford Fiesta which was functional, reliable, but a little bit boring TBH.
Then I had a long gap w/o a motor vehicle
Then I got a SAAB 900S, DOHC engine, old shape, which was on its last legs, as the previous owners had not looked after it at all. It was AWESOME, the best car I've ever owned.
When the engine crapped out, I got another SAAB 900, this time a SOHC one, high mileage, but with a full service history. It was crap, and went wrong all the time.
The I ran a Ford Transit van for a while, that was great, slow as hell, but a pleasure to drive.
Currently running a SAAB 9-5 2.2L diesel estate car. Servicing costs are WTF high, but it's a nice ride, comfortable, economical (always better than 40MPG), lots of load space, I'm very pleased with it.
Dream ride would be a Studebaker Avanti w/round headlights, a Corvair Monza Turbo, a Bristol 410 or a Tatra T-87. Or a big Wolseley from the '50's. Or a big Humber from the '50's. Or a Daimler Majestic Major or a (drones on boringly for rest of day) |
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Acoustic Interloper

Joined: Jul 07, 2007 Posts: 661 Location: Berks County, PA
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:45 am Post subject:
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Here's my preferred mode of transportation, although the rains have been so slight (if fairly frequent) that I haven't had an opportunity to get out on a flooded stream since October. Also like cross country skiing, hiking, bicycling, and some running. Still have a minivan for hauling kayaks and skis and music gear, and two little cars for the kids, and a gas guzzling Maxima from 1999 that has been our only somehat fast car in 33 years of marriage, although it is nice for pulling out into traffic on the highways!
I had heard the streetcar scandal before. It wasn't just in the cities. I grew up in farm country where you supposedly need to drive, but at one time there were trollies connecting the small city of Reading to the even smaller borough of Boyertown, and thence to Pottstown, where you could take the train to Philly. I used to live in a farmhouse where the trolly bridge supports over the Manatawny Creek ("Manatawny" -- place where we come to drink -- not for the water, but for the place that the invading Europeans would sell alcohol to the Native Americans) are still standing. That meadow is the place I learned to Nordic ski, and also one of my regular creek kayaking spots.
As the auto industry becomes less profitable, perhaps it will be dismantled. Life goes on.
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DrJustice

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| Norman Phay wrote: | | Dream ride would be... ...Tatra T-87. |
It's gotta be the Tatra T87 then! A future lost...
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Joined: Oct 13, 2007 Posts: 1852 Location: Florida, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:43 am Post subject:
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It is time for 40's vehicles to emerge as a popular style. Let's redo the Tatra T87! _________________ For those about to ChucK, we salute you! - Ge Wang
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