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Mohoyoho
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject:
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No only pricey but very ugly as well!
Not that I don't want one of course. |
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject:
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The strange thing is that all doesn't seem to really be a synth guitar, I thought it was going to be like the old Casio PG range of guitars.
They are also advertising sustain like no other sustainer as it is infinite, this is untrue as the Roland VG99 also has infinite sustain.
Would be interesting to hear some sound clips though. |
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:04 am Post subject:
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The front page http://www.moogmusic.com/ has a video with some sound and lots of famous people going on how good it is. (as Marks first post read if I had looked properly!)
Sounds crap to me! |
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Mohoyoho
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:55 am Post subject:
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I think it looks great, and I think it sounds great. The video features people playing it for the first time, and none of them have had the chance to develop anything musically with the guitar. The circumstances are sort of like handing a Minimoog to a pianist for the first time. Or, perhaps, handing a Dobro or lapsteel to a guitarist for the first time. They will be able to create sounds, but be unfamiliar with the technique in playing it with any skill.
It's not an instrument designed to replace a conventional electric guitar. Nor is it trying to be a synth guitar. Rather, it has its own sound and technique for playing. I don't think one can judge the instrument until you can hear someone familiar with it take it through its paces. I would also love to hear it through a rack of FX gear. _________________ Mark Mahoney
Kingsport, Tennessee
http://www.reverbnation.com/markmahoney
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www.cdbaby.com/cd/mmahoneympeck
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http://www.limitedwave.com/subterraneous/ Last edited by Mohoyoho on Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:04 am; edited 1 time in total |
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softfin
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:56 am Post subject:
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BobTheDog wrote: | No only pricey but very ugly as well!
Not that I don't want one of course. |
Can't almost believe the price, $6,495.00
I'd be interested to try one out, but at that price couldn't ever afford one... I think there were some interesting sounds, but I'm pretty sure it would be possible to produce quite similar sounds using an Ebow, for example. |
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Mohoyoho
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:16 am Post subject:
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ora for the same sort of money
2195 Brian Moore i1.13 guitar http://www.iguitar.com/iGuitar/iGuitarModels.asp?guitar=iGuitar1.13
1195 Roland VG99 $1195 http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLVG99
700 Axon AX100 mkii http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AX100mkII
2390 Virus TI http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VirusTIDesk/
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:18 am Post subject:
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I asked for a quote from Zion for a similar guitar without the moog stuff and got this:
$4350 including all options selected, price also includes a hard shell case. Turn around time is 12-14 weeks. Thanks, Torin
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Andrew Capon wrote:
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Body Style: Bent T
Body Material: Mahogany
Figured Top: Bent Top Flame Maple
Pickguard: —None—
Neck Raduis: 12"
Scale Length: 25 1/2
Fret Size: Medium Jumbo
Neck Wood: Maple / Ebony
Nut: Bone
String: 10 - 46
Hardware: Gold
Bridge: GraphTech GHOST Piezo Synth Transducers/Preamp
Pickups: Seymour Duncan
Pickup Config: H S H
Action: Low
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So the actual zion guitar is quite a bit of the cost. Last edited by BobTheDog on Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject:
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Subject was also discussed here _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Oskar
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:07 am Post subject:
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_________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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GovernorSilver
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject:
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I once owned a Fernandes Sustainer guitar.
Pros: Infinite sustain of more than one string simultaneously was possible. Sensitivity control so the sustainer would not work for softer notes, only louder ones if you wanted. You could select between emphasizing the fundamental or a harmonic when sustain kicks in. Some versions let you choose between two different harmonics as well as the fundamental.
Cons: If you played a chord, the lower strings eventually got louder than the higher ones. High E string does not trigger as readily unless you switch to .011 or heavier gauge.
Moog Guitar has a much bigger feature set. It claims to sustain all played strings at equal volume, unlike Fernandes Sustainer. And there are many more features not in the Fernandes. _________________ Current and recent work on Soundcloud
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Oskar
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:41 am Post subject:
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I moved this 'un here, as this is where it seems to belong. _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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