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bass ++ troubleshooting help needed
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:30 pm    Post subject: bass ++ troubleshooting help needed Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hi forum!

this is my first post here. for a long time i was only reading. this place is really
a great inspiration for me!

so, hello everyone!


after successfully building the MFOS 16step sequencer i wanted to build the bass ++.
sadly i wasn't successful yet. i'm having trouble getting the LM13700 to work, i think. i makes sounds, but the only thing, that i can hear is the impact sound, that comes out of the TL072. so far, the pots for trigger sens, impact tone, impact volume and master volume work. the other pots, that are LM13700 related have no effect at all. i've quadra checked everything, but i can't see the mistake. the only thing, that hapens with the LM is, that it's getting slightly warm, when the power is turned on. the whole circuit is connected to +-9V. as jean-louise said in another thread, the 9V power supply works perfect for him, so this might not be the problem.

i've attached a drawing of my stripboard layout. the pots are not shown in this drawing and the resistors that are connected to the pots are not on the stripboard, but directly on the pins of the pots.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If everything looks good to you, it may be a bad LM13700 if it's getting warm. Because it is really easy to damage an OTA, just make sure you check once again (penta checked) that your not overstressing the part before you replace it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey! thank you for your advice. i didn't know, that the LM chip can break easily...
at the moment i'm pretty busy, so i've no time to work on the ++. as soon as i'm
back on the project i will check the circuit once again, or maybe i will breadboard
the part of the circuit with the 13700.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK, whenever your ready. And, BTW, not sure if your aware but there is a Quad version that will be in production soon. You can built up to four on a single circuit card.

http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-39402.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, i've seen the quad version. so, if i can't get the ++ to work on a stripboard, i will have to get a PCB anyways!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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yeah, i've seen the quad version. so, if i can't get the ++ to work on a stripboard, i will have to get a PCB anyways!


Maybe more rewarding to get your stripboard going. You will learn more about the circuit by troubleshooting Wink Lets see what we can do to get yours up and running. I have spare LM13700 chips if you need. I can throw two your way if you PM your address. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey, thanks a lot for offering me the LMs! but over here in berlin i've good suplly on those
chips, so i can fry as many as i want (or as long as i've got the cash)...

thanks again!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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hey, thanks a lot for offering me the LMs! but over here in berlin i've good suplly on those
chips, so i can fry as many as i want (or as long as i've got the cash)...


OK, cool ... (standing by then) .... Very Happy

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