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gomidas
Joined: Jul 09, 2004 Posts: 365 Location: La Ciotat, France
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:17 am Post subject:
USB PORT BROKEN (G2 ENGINE) Subject description: G2 hardware usb broken (MAC & WIN) |
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My engine usb is not workin anymore, no hardware detection on windows, and nothin in mac either....
What should I do?
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24079 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:24 am Post subject:
Re: USB PORT BROKEN (G2 ENGINE) Subject description: G2 hardware usb broken (MAC & WIN) |
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gomidas wrote: | My engine usb is not workin anymore, no hardware detection on windows, and nothin in mac either....
What should I do? :? |
Some others had this problem too and had to bring in their G2 for repair. You should go to the shop where you bought it first. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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gomidas
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:06 am Post subject:
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Thanks Blue Hell
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:14 am Post subject:
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I'm sorry, and always in fear it will happen to mine as well ... _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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gomidas
Joined: Jul 09, 2004 Posts: 365 Location: La Ciotat, France
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:45 am Post subject:
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I am addicted to Nord Modular and will miss my engine the time of the repair(I hope that the shop will find a way to repair it)...
Fortunately I have another G2 engine and a Nord Classic Key to keep on working..But I fear for my other engine too..let's cross fingers
Thanks Jan for your compassion |
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gomidas
Joined: Jul 09, 2004 Posts: 365 Location: La Ciotat, France
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:03 am Post subject:
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R.I.P G2 ENGINE...price of usb repair = price of the G2
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dorremifasol
Joined: Sep 28, 2006 Posts: 814 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:08 am Post subject:
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Too expensive I would say...
Have you contacted Clavia about this? _________________ Cheers,
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Keysandslots
Joined: Aug 18, 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Mississauga, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:19 am Post subject:
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Dropped my G2X recently, the only issue was a broken USB port. If you're not in too much of a hurry I'll be taking mine apart in a couple of weeks to try fixing it myself and can let you know how it goes.
You can probably get the USB port itself from Clavia, although I'm going to try and find something standard on the 'net. These people may have something (http://www.assmannusa.com/forums.html?main_page=index&cPath=5_101) but I won't know until I get the keyboard apart.
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gomidas
Joined: Jul 09, 2004 Posts: 365 Location: La Ciotat, France
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:48 am Post subject:
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Keysandslots wrote: | Dropped my G2X recently, the only issue was a broken USB port. If you're not in too much of a hurry I'll be taking mine apart in a couple of weeks to try fixing it myself and can let you know how it goes.
You can probably get the USB port itself from Clavia, although I'm going to try and find something standard on the 'net. These people may have something (http://www.assmannusa.com/forums.html?main_page=index&cPath=5_101) but I won't know until I get the keyboard apart.
Randy |
OK COOL... I just have to rest a day or two, because I am kinda
I think tomorrow will be a better day to start thinking about a DIY solution...
Thanks Keysandslots I surely will need some help in the near future to solve this...
If anyone knows the price of this 'MAIN??' board, please let me know...but
Dorremifasol I don't think the shop lied to me, what will be their interest by doin this? But I still HOPE you are RIGHT Thanks 4 helping Dorremifasol |
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dorremifasol
Joined: Sep 28, 2006 Posts: 814 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:15 am Post subject:
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Maybe they are not lying to you but it seems that they want to charge for an entire board replacement and not only for the pieces needed to fix the USB port.
They interest may be that they always charge an additional percentage of the real price, say for example 20%. Then 20% of 800€ is more than %20 of 150€. _________________ Cheers,
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Keysandslots
Joined: Aug 18, 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Mississauga, Ontario
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject:
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I've ordered 1/2 dozen of these:
http://www.hvwtech.com/products_view.asp?ProductID=709
which is what is on the G2X, and I have removed the boards and removed the broken USB port from the board. Now I just need to wait a few days, and then hopefully fix this thing. Notice the price is quite a bit less that what you were quoted. I'm hoping these also fit the Yamaha S90.
See if you can get yours apart and figure out the type of port. If it looks like one of those, let me know and I'll send you one. Oh, and obviously this is only going to work if the port is broken, which is what I think is wrong with mine (the plastic bit in the centre had broken off). If there is a problem with the board then I'm afraid this is not going to help.
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gomidas
Joined: Jul 09, 2004 Posts: 365 Location: La Ciotat, France
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:38 am Post subject:
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Keysandslots wrote: | ...Notice the price is quite a bit less that what you were quoted. |
Indeed
Quote: | ...If it looks like one of those, let me know and I'll send you one.
Randy |
WOW!COOL! I am going to check it right now
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
BTW I have emailed Clavia about my problem and get... NO RESPONSE |
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Keysandslots
Joined: Aug 18, 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Mississauga, Ontario
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:28 am Post subject:
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It's done and it works. I'll admit to being a bit nervous about de-soldering the original USB port and re-soldering the new piece but I hooked it back up and it works!
A bit of time and a couple of dollars in parts. Happy happy, joy joy.
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gomidas
Joined: Jul 09, 2004 Posts: 365 Location: La Ciotat, France
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:33 am Post subject:
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That's a great news
You did it!!!!!!
So, I should try that too.But I must buy a soldering machine.
What kind of equipment do you use to achieve this?
If you still have one of those 'magical' usb things, here is my email mikou.p@gmail.com send me your address I will be happy to send you few € and my physical address so that you can send me one of those 'pieces of heaven'...
Just hope I'll be as good as you at soldering
Randy!I'm so happy for you |
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nishanthjoyson
Joined: Jun 10, 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Columbia, SC
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject:
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so did you get it fixed gomidas? i think i have the same issus |
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gomidas
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:51 am Post subject:
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Hi, I didn't have the time yet to do it, I was busy with a new job(@ the mixing deck in a Jazz Club!nice!), but i definitely want to do it soon, I'll let you know if it works, I must finish some work before with the sounds already inside...
HAPPY HOLIDAYS |
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kslight
Joined: Feb 23, 2009 Posts: 41 Location: KC
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:00 pm Post subject:
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Hey I realize I'm digging up an old thread but my G2 engine has this issue now as well (must have been in the last couple months?). Disappointing because I've always treated it rather well...but just out of curiosity how difficult is it to replace the USB port? Is it really likely necessary to replace it, maybe just needs resoldered? I'm very handy with a soldering iron but have never messed with a USB port and haven't cracked open the Nord to see what I'm getting into, just wanted to see what everyone's experience is... I'm assuming Clavia doesn't care since they don't support it any more. |
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synthlab
Joined: Apr 07, 2008 Posts: 19 Location: Raleigh,NC
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject:
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I was working on some things in my rack and then I noticed that the USB light wasn't on. Oh crap... not the USB port.
I pulled the G2 Engine out of the rack to see if I could hold the USB plug one direction or the other to see if the light would come on. No dice. I tried killing the editor and opening it up again. Still no joy.
OK, I was a synth tech for a dozen years... time to open it up. With the lid off you can see that the USB jack can wiggle around quite a bit. The 4 connections come from the middle of the jack down to the board. You would think that would keep the solder joint from breaking so easy.
...unscrew everything, take the board out, look at the bottom. The 4 pins look like they are in good shape, but I'm sure that it's a very multi-layer board. Could be broken on an internal layer...?
Heat up the soldering iron, Weller temp. control set to 650 degrees F. Flow a little bit o solder on each of the for pins. I push on each pin to the side just slightly while I'm heating it to make sure it's getting hot all the way through... couple seconds each pin.
Put the board back in, screw everything down, connect the short ribbon to the power supply. I tested the G2, but it still didn't seem to work.
I could use the "About this Mac" under the Apple icon. Hit "more info", then USB... AH Ha,The computer can see the G2! Why doesn't it work?
Hmmm... restart the computer... IT WORKS!!! I'm not doomed to no editor. Now the real question is, did I need to go through all that or, in my case, did I just need to restart my computer. Who knows? Who cares? It works.
Opening the Engine, taking the main circuit board out and resoldering the USB jack is pretty straight forward. If anybody wants me to talk them through that operation, let me know.
whew... that scared me to death! |
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maitilupas
Joined: Jul 25, 2008 Posts: 28 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject:
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synthlab wrote: | I was working on some things in my rack and then I noticed that the USB light wasn't on. Oh crap... not the USB port.
I pulled the G2 Engine out of the rack to see if I could hold the USB plug one direction or the other to see if the light would come on. No dice. I tried killing the editor and opening it up again. Still no joy.
OK, I was a synth tech for a dozen years... time to open it up. With the lid off you can see that the USB jack can wiggle around quite a bit. The 4 connections come from the middle of the jack down to the board. You would think that would keep the solder joint from breaking so easy.
...unscrew everything, take the board out, look at the bottom. The 4 pins look like they are in good shape, but I'm sure that it's a very multi-layer board. Could be broken on an internal layer...?
Heat up the soldering iron, Weller temp. control set to 650 degrees F. Flow a little bit o solder on each of the for pins. I push on each pin to the side just slightly while I'm heating it to make sure it's getting hot all the way through... couple seconds each pin.
Put the board back in, screw everything down, connect the short ribbon to the power supply. I tested the G2, but it still didn't seem to work.
I could use the "About this Mac" under the Apple icon. Hit "more info", then USB... AH Ha,The computer can see the G2! Why doesn't it work?
Hmmm... restart the computer... IT WORKS!!! I'm not doomed to no editor. Now the real question is, did I need to go through all that or, in my case, did I just need to restart my computer. Who knows? Who cares? It works.
Opening the Engine, taking the main circuit board out and resoldering the USB jack is pretty straight forward. If anybody wants me to talk them through that operation, let me know.
whew... that scared me to death! |
ahahah
that one was funny
A tip for all of you:
Use a voltmeter |
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sebber
Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:26 am Post subject:
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Hi, having suffered a broken USB port I came across this old thread. Two things:
- the link to the USB port hardware doesn't work anymore. Does anybody know which product that was?
- The Voltmeter. How to use it? Simply checking if some current is flowing in the USB port? _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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voltage control
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:58 pm Post subject:
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- The Voltmeter. How to use it? Simply checking if some current is flowing in the USB port?[/quote]
Hi Sebber. The easiest way to check your connections is to use a multi-meter that can measure resistance (ohms). That way, you don't have to power up the synthesizer. You can use the meter to check for continuity between the pins inside the USB jack and points on the circuit board (away from the jack) that connect to the jack by means of circuit board traces. |
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sebber
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:48 am Post subject:
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Ah, like this. Personal bad news: the hardware USB port works _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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