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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Excuse my ignorance since I'm not a gamer...
How is the switch in the middle (is this the "hat switch"?) operationally different from the other 3? toggle vs. momentary?

It reminds me of the "energy domes" that Devo wore some years back. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sure, it's like a little joystick, that moves directionally. (it is the Energy Dome Devo looking thing) It's like a joystick for your thumb.

But instead of pots inside, its 4 switches in a plus sign (hatswitch), so it'll have to be configured slightly different than the large stick. But it should provide decent control of some of Osc 2's functions. But i'm still not sure....

There still might be a better way to control the 2nd Osc....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

When we say 2 Osc's do we really mean 2 KS loops? Cause there's not even 1 Osc on the board that I sent you buddy! I think you mean 2 KS loops, and wow does that second loop make a great difference in the sound!

Les

(note: if I sound sarcastic it's only cause I'm trying to be funny, lol)...

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Inventor wrote:
When we say 2 Osc's do we really mean 2 KS loops? Cause there's not even 1 Osc on the board that I sent you buddy! I think you mean 2 KS loops, and wow does that second loop make a great difference in the sound!


Ah,but Grasshopper,does not this "loop" provide an oscillation?
Is not ALL sound an oscillation?
Is not EVERYTHING,In fact, an
oscillation?
What is the sound of one loop looping?
And more importantly...Where is my drink?
Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Laughing Laughing Laughing What is the sound of 1 loop looping Laughing Laughing Laughing

Yeah, i guess i mean a KS Loop. Still think it could be considered an Osc though. Like on a sampler, whatever waveforms you pick are still considered the Osc.

But hey, my vocabulary isn't the best (for example: calling the modulation trigs- "Bounce Buttons"), so feel free to correct me at any time.

SO, can the KS Loop still be considered an Oscillator? Here's the Wiki Def:

An electronic oscillator is an electronic circuit that produces a repetitive electronic signal, often a sine wave or a square wave.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aha, I am corrected! Indeed, grasshopper has learned that a KS loop is in fact an oscillator! In fact, I have some ChucK programs with KS loops that oscillate with no input - the trick is boosting the gain to "catch" the signal, then lowering it to maintain the signal. You can actually play a plain KS loop like an instrument in fact. It is kind of drone-ish.

But yes, for the purpose of me knowing what you want me to build for our project, 1:11, specifying KS or loop would be more clear. Now i must go try to grab pebble from teacher's hand, ah-so!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Let me add to the confusion ... I'd consider KS to be a filter ... as other filters it can be made to self oscillate Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I can be made to self-oscillate!

drunken shaking shakng2 compress bounce cyclops too much coffee party time! party time!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd like to do something like in the post of the Moscillator, generalize a KS loop to a geometric shape or something. make KS bucky balls and tetrahedrons and stuff. Not sure what would happen.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It looks and sounds like some mad sex toy!!!! Shocked

All you need now is a dil....... nope not going there!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Too late! You got your freak on over the internet! lol
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
Let me add to the confusion ... I'd consider KS to be a filter ... as other filters it can be made to self oscillate Wink


Ah, there we go. Thanks, Jan!!

So (please correct me if i'm wrong Les) the KS loop is a feedback loop, and the sounds this synth creates is from the filters resonance? Essentially a modulated feedback loop?
How i get the synth type sounds is with Rapid Modulation Settings from the Boolean.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Inventor wrote:
I'd like to do something like in the post of the Moscillator, generalize a KS loop to a geometric shape or something. make KS bucky balls and tetrahedrons and stuff. Not sure what would happen.



That would be the shit! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Now i must go try to grab pebble from teacher's hand, ah-so!


When you can break dance across this rice paper and leave no sign of your passing...

Then you will be a true HipHopstah.




Ohm...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's another lil demo of the current Prototype.
It's very simple, some beats and the Proto going trough the ChaosPad dry. Thats it....easy breezy.

The awesome beats were done by Mr. Cold...


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yo!


edit:

for clarification:
This thing sounds awesome! (and pairs well with mah drummin imo)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's a lil peek at what the new controllers will look like like.

There'll be additional buttons on the base, wont have the cord, and i'm trying to get them glossier, and tightnen up the lines more...but hey....

Don't these look like something a StormTrooper would use?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

did you build that or have you recycled it from an existing product?

either way, looks cool!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks!
These are old joysticks people don't use anymore. My GF suggested i try to make em look different than just a regular ol stick. Something to set em apart, and say, "Hey, this isn't just a joystick!!"

Good advice me thinks!!

i'm trying a variety of different paints/colors...but i love this StormTrooper look. i think i'm going to make the first set out all like this.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think you need to find that huge graveyard that the military has for old aircraft and um,appropriate some of THOSE sticks.
I'm pretty sure it's in your part of the country. Cool

BTW: Wicked demo kudos to both you and Monsieur Cold.

What you have now looks plenty cool,tho' and it doesn't look like it says Microsoft on it,which is a HUGE plus for me.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks!! Monsieur Cold and i are havin lots of fun scrambling up sounds:D

i think the Graveyard you are talking about is on the south side of town..the Aircraft Graveyard for the military, right?
That place is pretty freaking cool if you're an aircraft buff. Rows and rows of grounded planes, some rather rare...like the old Presedential plane, ect.

It'd be crazy to have an actual Jetstick.....next time i go, i'm gonna ask if they have a spare, won't hurt to ask!!

(edit: i'm trying to find this pic of me on the flight simulator at the Graveyard, i look like a 4 year old on those quarter rides in front of the supermarket)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah,that sounds like the one.They had some shots of it in the film Koyanisquatsi if I recall correctly.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

pyrosonic wrote:
Yeah,that sounds like the one.They had some shots of it in the film Koyanisquatsi if I recall correctly.


It's in that!?!

That movie is the reason why i moved to the desert!! NOT JOKING.

That film seriously blew my mind.
In a VERY big way.
i can't go down an interstate without hearing Philip Glass in my head.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good film! I think I'll put it and the other two related films in my Netflix queue.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

audiodef wrote:
Good film! I think I'll put it and the other two related films in my Netflix queue.


Cool!!
Don't know if i seen the 3rd one, did see the second (powasomethin) though. Sometimes you can find an indy theatre that runs em...always a treat seeing em on the big screen, big sound. Makes you feel real small!! Smile

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