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cheese_nucleus
Joined: Dec 22, 2009 Posts: 24 Location: germany
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:20 pm Post subject:
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i want to build a universal switch module to give out hi / lo signals, for example to start / stop / reset 4040 counters and 4051 sequencers. i want to use momentary pushbuttons to do this. yes, i know, toggle switches would be the easiest way for this task, but i think a momentary pushbutton is more intuitive for starting/stopping sequencers.
i tried to build the circuit, attached to this thread (found on this website http://talkingelectronics.com/projects/TouchSwitch/TouchSwitch-1.html ). it's a toggle touch switch, using a 4049. the switch's output changes to high on one push, on the next, it changes back to low. an inverted output is also available. this switch is originally planned as a touch switch. i found it very unreliable, when i tested it.
so my question is: does anybody have an idea how to realize the same function, but with more reliability and maybe with less parts used?
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Kabzoer

Joined: Feb 07, 2011 Posts: 78 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:17 am Post subject:
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| You can use a T flip-flop to toggle, as far as i know... |
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cheese_nucleus
Joined: Dec 22, 2009 Posts: 24 Location: germany
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Kabzoer

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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:36 pm Post subject:
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| Yeah, I think the last one is JK flipflop wired as a T flipflop. |
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cheese_nucleus
Joined: Dec 22, 2009 Posts: 24 Location: germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject:
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| ok, so i breadboarded the 4011 circuit on the left today and it works perfectly. no delay and no failures like on the 4049 version! |
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richardc64

Joined: Jun 01, 2006 Posts: 577 Location: NYC
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject:
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Since the 4011s are connected as inverters, each with both inputs tied together, you should be able to get 3 such circuits from one 4069. _________________ "It's quite OK to make music with tea spoons and rubber bands!" -- Blue Hell |
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cheese_nucleus
Joined: Dec 22, 2009 Posts: 24 Location: germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:10 pm Post subject:
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| ok, that would be the circuit in the middle. 4069 and 4049 can be used indentically, am i right? |
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richardc64

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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:31 pm Post subject:
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| cheese_nucleus wrote: | | ok, that would be the circuit in the middle. 4069 and 4049 can be used indentically, am i right? |
Well, I referred to the left one, "Bild 7", but yeah, I guess a 4049 or 4069 would probably work in either circuit. _________________ "It's quite OK to make music with tea spoons and rubber bands!" -- Blue Hell |
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Kabzoer

Joined: Feb 07, 2011 Posts: 78 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:49 am Post subject:
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| What is the difference between 4069 and a 4049? There must be a difference because the schematics in the datasheet are different. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:59 am Post subject:
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| Well to start with, they are powered from different pins. This means that if you were substituting one for the other in a circuit, you would have to change the way the IC is powered. |
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richardc64

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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:30 pm Post subject:
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| -minus- wrote: | | Well to start with, they are powered from different pins. This means that if you were substituting one for the other in a circuit, you would have to change the way the IC is powered. |
Ooops. forgot about that, sorry. Also, 4069 is 14pins. 4049 is 16pins! Both should work, but they aren't pin-for-pin interchangeable.
The 4069 is six inverters. The 4049 is six inverting buffers. The input voltage can be higher than the supply voltage: It will translate 10volt or 15volt CMOS levels down to 5volt. _________________ "It's quite OK to make music with tea spoons and rubber bands!" -- Blue Hell |
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject:
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I've been a fan of many of ROG's projects for a number of years now. Fun stuff . _________________ Zontar Prevails! |
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