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Proposal for an electonic hi/low switch with pushbuttons
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:20 pm    Post subject: Proposal for an electonic hi/low switch with pushbuttons Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i want to build a universal switch module to give out hi / lo signals, for example to start / stop / reset 4040 counters and 4051 sequencers. i want to use momentary pushbuttons to do this. yes, i know, toggle switches would be the easiest way for this task, but i think a momentary pushbutton is more intuitive for starting/stopping sequencers.
i tried to build the circuit, attached to this thread (found on this website http://talkingelectronics.com/projects/TouchSwitch/TouchSwitch-1.html ). it's a toggle touch switch, using a 4049. the switch's output changes to high on one push, on the next, it changes back to low. an inverted output is also available. this switch is originally planned as a touch switch. i found it very unreliable, when i tested it.

so my question is: does anybody have an idea how to realize the same function, but with more reliability and maybe with less parts used?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You can use a T flip-flop to toggle, as far as i know...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey!

after some more hours of research, i found these schematics.

(source is http://ferromel.de/tronic_271.htm )

i'll breadboard the circuit on the left (bild 7) maybe tonight


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, I think the last one is JK flipflop wired as a T flipflop.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ok, so i breadboarded the 4011 circuit on the left today and it works perfectly. no delay and no failures like on the 4049 version!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Since the 4011s are connected as inverters, each with both inputs tied together, you should be able to get 3 such circuits from one 4069.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ok, that would be the circuit in the middle. 4069 and 4049 can be used indentically, am i right?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cheese_nucleus wrote:
ok, that would be the circuit in the middle. 4069 and 4049 can be used indentically, am i right?


Well, I referred to the left one, "Bild 7", but yeah, I guess a 4049 or 4069 would probably work in either circuit.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What is the difference between 4069 and a 4049? There must be a difference because the schematics in the datasheet are different.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well to start with, they are powered from different pins. This means that if you were substituting one for the other in a circuit, you would have to change the way the IC is powered.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Well to start with, they are powered from different pins. This means that if you were substituting one for the other in a circuit, you would have to change the way the IC is powered.


Ooops. forgot about that, sorry. Also, 4069 is 14pins. 4049 is 16pins! Both should work, but they aren't pin-for-pin interchangeable.

The 4069 is six inverters. The 4049 is six inverting buffers. The input voltage can be higher than the supply voltage: It will translate 10volt or 15volt CMOS levels down to 5volt.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

4069:4049 module - easily swap two popular CMOS chips
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

artifus wrote:
4069:4049 module - easily swap two popular CMOS chips



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