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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:08 am    Post subject: Water & Bird Box
Subject description: one year child gift !!
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Hi all !
I want to share with you this little noise box i made for my friend's child birthday (one year !!). It gives a messy sound, but can create beautiful artefacts...
Here's the schematic ! I had best results with very little caps ( 0,001uf & 0,047 for the clock).
It's based on a cd4093 & a cd4094 ( i don't really know if i used it the right way...).

Let me know what you think about it, and ideas to improve it are welcomed !!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just looked up the 4049N but it appears you are using something else entirely, the only 4049 I can see is some logic buffers.
Would it be possible to get some sound too?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

JingleJoe wrote:
Just looked up the 4049N but it appears you are using something else entirely, the only 4049 I can see is some logic buffers.
Would it be possible to get some sound too?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i don't really understand what you mean Jingle jOe... sorry.... Embarassed
no sounds, it was a gift... But with very fast oscillators, you can get some sounds which can remind the eric archer tune in tokyo ( even if it's really not the same thing and not so complicated.... Wink )

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Water & Bird Box
Subject description: one year child gift !!
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deadbeat wrote:
( i don't really know if i used it the right way...)


There's a wrong way to use a part in a Lunetta? I think that if it makes sound, you've found a right way.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

deadbeat wrote:
i don't really understand what you mean Jingle jOe... sorry.... Embarassed

oh Rolling Eyes I read the number wrong on the IC, but I also requested some audio samples of this device.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would have liked to hear it too. I am intrigued by electronic "water sounds", but right now I don't have a 4094 to build the circuit myself. Ah well, not sure when I can get to the electronics store... maybe I'll pick up a bunch of CMOS I still don't have.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sorry, i don't have any sound sample... it's now in my friend's child hands... As soon as i get a recorder, i'll do that !! Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK, I finally managed to get to the electronics store and buy a 4094. I built the circuit, but instead of photo-resistors, I used pots. The sound was barely audible, so I just used one of the outputs of the 4094, bypassing the diodes & LEDs. All the outputs had the same sound, as far as I could tell.
Maybe I read the schematic wrong? The output is connected to the vertical line which connects the cathodes of the diodes? Pin 1 of the 4094 is connected to pin 15? Pin 10 and 11 of the 4093 are connected to pins 2 and 3, respectively?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, i realized that all the outputs were the same...
I've tried several condensator values, little values are best... And i've sent the output bus to a lm386, in order to feed a little speaker...

It's my first design with a cd4094, i think it's a bit messy, but i'll go back to it as soon as i can, i think it can be improved.

I've never tried with pots, maybe it wouldn't work the same way... DOn't know.
But it's a really messy noise toy !

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