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Using R.A.C.E as a stereo enhancer
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lee.s



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Using R.A.C.E as a stereo enhancer
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Hi all, well I've done it, I've used AmbioDSP as a stereo enhancer on a song I've been working on, I'd really appreciate some opinions on the difference in sound, personally I think it's spread things out a bit, lowered center channel and created just a little more room in the mix which I think the song needed, however, I could listen to it in a week and go ugh, wtf did I do that for.

Technically you're supposed to use AmbioDSP for listening, but I dont mind breaking the rules now and then Smile

http://soundcloud.com/rythmik-love/preset-playaround-25-02-2012 <- here's the last mix I did a while back, has some volume issues here and there but it's mostly ok.

http://soundcloud.com/rythmik-love/preset-playaround-ambiophonics <-- here's the same mix but with AmbioDSP added to the string channel, and very minor usage on the master channel.

I'd really appreciate any feedback, and I'm more than happy to return the favor if you guys have music you want to show me
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't understand, is the first mix without the stereo enhancer? Because it's much wider on my headphones.

When I listened to the second mix, I immediately started missing the first.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The first mix is done by myself, I felt everything vital sits center channel, however the bass, kick, and a few other elements kind of took up all the headroom, I tried out using AmbioDSP on the strings, and as a subtle effect on the master channel to try and widen things, on some systems i have here it actually sounds like I have more headroom, upon experimenting... it generally doesn't do the song any favours haha, I'm only really an amateur at writing, let alone mixing/mastering but I'm still interested in using R.A.C.E as a "stereo enhancer" on certain instruments, it seems like if used properly, it can widen beyond L/R without too much effort and still sound good but it's a matter of learning how to fine tune that to actually work within a song instead of just slapping it on as an afterthought
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think the best thing to do is listen on different speakers and headphones, because we must be getting very different results from that widener.

I always get the same problem- I widen the mix at home with Ozone and it sounds incredible, then I try it out on other monitors and it's more narrow than before. Less is usually more, I don't get this problem by using just a bit.

I see that the whole idea is that you want to use more extreme stereo widening though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, I'm more interested in using it for one shots, or certain sounds, or maybe even for layering more than mastering, I was interested to see what would happen if I used it on the master channel though, it's all work in progress and just playing around really.

So you use Ozone as well? I bought into Ozone 4 a while ago, expensive but wow that plugin is amazing, although for compression I prefer Maximus
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