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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:41 am    Post subject: New filter from Antares Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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The filters, which have a 12 to 48dB-per-octave variable cutoff, can be switched between low-pass, high-pass, band-pass and notch modes. Each filter has its own independent delay, pan and gain controls, and there are four multi-shape LFOs, four envelope generators, an envelope-follower and two step-programmable rhythm generators. All of Filter’s time-based parameters can be sync’ed to host tempo and MIDI, and there are extensive MIDI control options. A powerful modulation matrix allows the user to route any internal control source (and, indeed, external MIDI controllers) to virtually any of Filter’s key parameters, and a single source can be used to control multiple parameters.

The filters themselves can be configured in six different ways: as four parallel filters, as two parallel to two in series, as three in series parallel to a fourth, as two parallel pairs of two, as two in series followed by two parallel, and as four filters in series. Finally, Filter can run in mono-mono, mono-stereo and stereo-stereo modes. The plug-in is available now, priced at £164.50, in VST, RTAS and MAS formats for Mac OS 9.x and 10.2. VST, RTAS and Direct X versions for Windows 98, 2000 and XP will be available very soon.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The URL for the product page is: http://www.antarestech.com/products/filter.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Get the PDF manual fromhttp://www.antarestech.com/downloads/Filter_Manual.pdf
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rob Hordijk showed off a similar filter he built as a hardware module at the Modular 2003 conference. It wasn't quite as flexible. He has created many similar filters as Nord Modular patches.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks delicious. I do tire of waiting for the PC versions of cool apps though. Argh!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The one single reason why I am most in favour of modular synth designs.. ( which includes analog and hybrid modules) is that certain aspects of sensible digital audio designs needs a long lookahead and so far nothing can deliver this ... unless you use analog designs.. possibly in hybrid designs..

OK.. I know Howard knows this in detail. I am not sure about all you other guys out there. This is quite geeky stuff anyway,

The essence of analog synth modeling is that analog designs has a potential that pure digital synthesis, the way we know it from the 80s and early 90s, does not have. In analog designs it is possible to operate with border vAlues in algoritms that computes to operable values cannnot handle at all.. In digital designs the only sensible way to handle certain typical synth fubtions means either runaway values... computation results which go far beyound the bit and sampling values you have available. The only sensible way to treat this is to go the direction of the Alesis ION or the WALDORF AFB. The Clavia products are quite cool too.

Oscillators are better done using digital tech.. i do not care what those other dudes are telling you... but trust your Elektro 80. Oscillators are cool going digital. VCAs and filters.. well... analog is best so far.. analog modelling and / or hydrid designs can deliver the goods. Pure digital is dead at the moment.

So... when all those vendors out there are going VA... what does this mean? Elektro 80 tellls you that this means that VA is the only way to handle vital issues of synth signal paths. That is why all the vendors go "VA IS THE NEXT BIG THING". We knew that... years ago. It computes that way. Not going VA is like getting to bed,,, pissed on booze.. and figuring out way to late that all those cute blondes are claymore mines. Deep shit? Well.. yeah.. ...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
all those cute blondes are claymore mines. Deep shit? Well.. yeah.. ...


Well put, although I have no idea what you mean.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmmm,... haha.. well.. this means.. not using VA philosophy when designing digital synths spells disaster. At best you end up with a cute little thing that plays back samples and goes "quack quack" when you hit a key.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Some years ago, i had this party.. and some of us nerds tried to compute a Voetra filter from that late duophonic design. We soon found out that the numbers were wrong and the only sensible solution was to to model the analog device first. Then build a better digital design that could handle the analog design. In analg designs the worst case of error is distortion. And it is possibly to design analog cicuitry that handles distortion well.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Analog synths that handle runaway values well.. all Octave Instruments/Voetra products are amazing.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Let us say that we put in a complex waveform into a moog or arp odyssey style filter.. and play it at selfoscillation or close.. in an analog design.. as in the Octave/Voetrta products you get fatness beyound belief. In a pure digital design you get stupid values that returns nonsense. You need digital filtering algorithms that handle this and these days VA is the clue to handle this well. This is one of the features that makes products like the Nord Modular so cool.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I just feel sorry for the cats on dial-up.

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Oh humanity..... Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Rob Hordijk showed off a similar filter he built as a hardware module at the Modular 2003 conference. It wasn't quite as flexible. He has created many similar filters as Nord Modular patches.


Vwry interesting. Any URLS?


Seems like I have to get a secondhand Nord Modular. And fast..

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
Any URLS?

Seems like I have to get a secondhand Nord Modular. And fast..


Don't know if Rob has any URLs. You can always subscribe to the Nord Modular mailing list http://code404.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular but be prepared for lots of email. Laughing
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