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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Don't forget what Milton Babbit said, "Nothing gets old as fast as a new sound."


that's a great quote

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Don't forget what Milton Babbit said, "Nothing gets old as fast as a new sound."


That´s true too, but in techno a valid musical development is introducing a new sound (new to this piece) for which it trades that on a night of techno all the sounds (except maybe the 808 kick) will be exchanged every 5 or so minutes. Techno mixes implicidly admit that "new" gets "old" fast; a new sound will start to shimmer through at one point, making the listener strain to grab it and the dancer figure out how to incorporate it in his patern and when it´s there the fun is often mostly gone, but a new "new" sound will be around the corner. I think this is completely valid, not for all the time, every day, but as a option for a night a month.

More generally; I don´t think anybody seriously wants just "new" as the only mode of expression and even if it get´s "old" quickly; there´s something special about a new -erm- partner and I think any serious composer will also be tempted by any dishes on a menu card he´s never heard of. I don´t want to sound base here but I think it pays off to take examples everybody can relate to (so love and food are good), substitute new writers or cars if this is found offensive.

Rejecting "new" just because it gets old is as silly as worshipping "new" for it´s own sake, imho.

And of cource a lot of techno does not deliver on this promise, including a lot of Mills´s work, but to me that´s no reason to write-off the aesthetic.

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kassen wrote:
many audiences actively expect this; they expect a new record to have new sounds.

OK, but not everything new can be filed under "techno" or any other label
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Kassen wrote:
many audiences actively expect this; they expect a new record to have new sounds.

OK, but not everything new can be filed under "techno" or any other label


I know, sorry if that wasn´t clear.
"many" need not be "all".

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