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Pseudo sine wave good for general use or Drum kits.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject: Pseudo sine wave good for general use or Drum kits. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi guys

Made this little circuit to use with drum kits.
It's good from ~ 50hz to 200hz.
Pot 35 : Frequency
Pots 36 and 37 are to shape the wave the way you like. Or replace with trimpots to use a fixed shape.

If you want to crazy shape : I add a PWM diodes/pot on 40106...the wave gets cool.

Supply 9V + GND


I hope it should be useful for someone.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject: Better circuit Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here is a little better circuit.
Improvements from previous version:
-more stable and symmetrical;
-cleaner sound ;
-smaller circuit;
-wider range frequency.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

nice little circuit, I am wondering what C62 does.
You could probably make an oscillator using 2 of the 4069 gates so you can do it with one chip.
An oscillator build with 2 inverters is also mores stable than a single schmitt trigger inverter one.
But if it will work might depend a bit on C62 since I assume the used 4069 is unbuffered.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Phobos

Thank you for your thoughts.

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what C62 does.

Symmetry. Without it the wave looks like the bottom picture.
I know that it changes the frequency. But it worked fine with C61 between my goal range

Quote:
You could probably make an oscillator using 2 of the 4069 gates so you can do it with one chip.

I did a little search to do it, but everything I found were did with at least 4 of 4069 gates Sad

Quote:
But if it will work might depend a bit on C62 since I assume the used 4069 is unbuffered

Yes , it is the UE version

UPDATE: the C82 should be replaced with 10uf or even better 22uf. Very very nice symmetry and smoothness.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I was thinking about this circuit, but I see now it has the capacitor on the output so that wouldn't work for your circuit.
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I don't know what the waveform on the other side of the cap looks though.

There is also this one which uses 3 gates but might be useful.
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even if you would need 4 gates for it you could still do it with 1 chip.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Phobos.

Thank you again.
No problem if the last capacitor must be removed.
I'll try both circuits tomorrow!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The output of that first circuit is a squarewave. I thought the capacitor was at a different location so you could tap it
to get a triangle wave as with the 40106 oscillator, but that obviously doesn't work. As a I said I don't know how the
other side of the capacitor looks though, so maybe it is useful afterall.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Phobos.

You were right.
I checked the circuit and started it again.
I finished it with this little one.
The final wave is a triangular but with a good rounded edges .
I liked the final sound !
Now the bandwidth is all the way from a few Hz (40 maybe) up to a fine whistle.

With this configuration, we can do 6 oscs with one 40106 and one 4069.

Thank you !


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