The great EBAY debate continued...............

devilfish · Joined: Nov 02, 2005 Posts: 5 Location: uk

Ok,

I removed my listing as of now until i have some clarification on a few things...

(see LOCKED thread titled Every now and then)

I wouldnt want to be seen as unreasonable or disregarding peoples opinions.

Please can you clarify as owners/administrators of the nord modular archive.

A: Who owns the patches ?

B: What are the patches terms of use?

C: When is a patch that has been modified from an existing patch different enough to be called a separate entity?

D: What is "Free" defined as with regards to patches?

E: Would the owners of this site like to elaborate on the email sent to me purporting to be from the owner/representing the owner of this site?

Thanks

Twisted Evil

Devilfish.

Kassen · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject:

devilfish · Joined: Nov 02, 2005 Posts: 5 Location: uk

so sue me?

Razz

deknow · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject:

...i wouldn't have a problem with someone charging 5pounds to supply all these patches on a cd _if_ they credited who wrote them (this would be the hard work or clever programing that would make such a service valuable to everyone involved).

claiming copyright for yourself is totally ridiculous and unjustified on any legal, moral, or ethical grounds. claiming that you actually went through the trouble of opening each patch in the editor is just funny.

this is bottom feeding behaviour, and you are not likely to get good vibes from the community that does all the work that you are taking credit for.

deknow

v-un-v · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject:

deknow · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:

...also, threatening to buy electro80 INSTANT coffee is fighting words! everyone stay clear so you don't get caught in the crossfire!

deknow

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject:

The title of this new thread is grossly misleading. This is no great debate.
All the facts are already settled. A kid has been passing off community work as his own and he is selling this on eBay. Clearly he has no deep understanding of the very nature of many of these patches. None of his arguments are sensible and he is seeing this himself. He also freely confessed rebranding the lot and he suddenly understood what this is really about. Anyways, it is too late. This is now documented in the locked thread. I was hoping for a full confession and we got it.

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:

@ Develfish :

this offer I saw on the ebay page of emailing a complete list to interested people, does that one still hold ? I'm interested, and hereby ask :-)

Axiom · Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:43 am Post subject:

people like this one will never learn the value of real work and the pleasure to see their own efforts being successfull. Anyway we, on this board, share something more priceless that can't be stolen and reselled: knowledge.

Luca

seawolf · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:52 am Post subject: it probably wouldn't hurt to...

It might be a good idea to look into one of these for our respective patches....
http://www.creativecommons.org/

and so, does anyone know of a way to add

; /* comments */

into a .pch file?

Cheers

mosc · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:01 am Post subject:

Don't know about the .pch file format, but that is fully understood I think,

As for the Creative Commons, that's good, certainly better than nothing, but it is very vague. For example, if you want you can permit use but not for commercial purposes. What does that mean?

seawolf · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:08 am Post subject:

I believe that a 'commercial use' would be any situation where the material was used specifically as a commodity for exchange.

You're right, these licenses are a bit vague in some ways. I'd like to see how they hold up in a court situation, all I see in discussions across the web is basically this same question.

But if anything, these licenses serve the purpose of diffusing some of the grey areas about how the material may be redistributed and used.

blue hell