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DUG FIR
Joined: Aug 28, 2006 Posts: 2 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject:
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Anyone who knows software vocoders PLEASE help! I use FL studio 6 as my platform and the included Fruity Vocoder as well as the AKAI DC Vocoder. I record my vocals then write a synth piece on the piano roll and run them together through either vocoder to make my voice sing the right notes. Here's the questions: 1) Do you know of any software synthesizers or synthesizer settings that are best to use in combination with a software vocoder to get the clearest, cleanest sound. I want to keep the voice sounding like the voice as much as possible (the less robotic the better) and still use the vocoder to shape the notes and melody of it. (since i cannot sing) i get different results with each synth i use but am not satisfied with the sound.
2) when using a software vocoder, to get a clean crisp sound, is it good to use a compressor, EQ etc.
3)do you know of a software vocoder that works better than the 2 i use to get a sound that retains the values of the human voice the clearest?
THANKS SO MUCH! |
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ian-s
Joined: Apr 01, 2004 Posts: 2669 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject:
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Vocoders tend to sound like vocoders, which is what a lot of people like. If you want realism, you could try the phase vocoder in csound (free) but it is so good it would probably just sound like pitch corrected vocals (which is another option). Csound is not so easy to use though.
A talkbox like Roger used can give more natural results but is a hardware only option. |
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DUG FIR
Joined: Aug 28, 2006 Posts: 2 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject:
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thanks for the tip. i want either a realistic sound (like it was pitch shifted- are there any pitch shifters that can be used with a piano roll style, pre-set notes?) or a clean and super intelligible vocoder as a VST that I can use within FL studio. |
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mosc
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Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18197 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:56 am Post subject:
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I don't use any soft vocoders, but I do use the vocoder in the G2. It's best to use a synth sound that is very simple. A very narrow pulse wave works very well. _________________ --Howard
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Wan
Joined: Mar 31, 2004 Posts: 259 Location: Netherlands, Ugchelen
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:53 am Post subject:
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DUG FIR wrote: | 3)do you know of a software vocoder that works better than the 2 i use to get a sound that retains the values of the human voice the clearest?THANKS SO MUCH! |
That could be celemony melodyne, not precisely a vocoder, isn't free, but works marvelous.
Look for Melodyne Uno _________________ Grtz Wan |
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elektro80
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Joined: Mar 25, 2003 Posts: 21959 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:57 am Post subject:
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If you want to fix vocals, Melodyne is an option. It isn´t quite realtime.
Roland has a keyboard which mean vocoding machine:
http://rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=771
I don´t think it is useable for lead vocals though. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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