electro-music.com   Dedicated to experimental electro-acoustic
and electronic music
 
    Front Page  |  Articles  |  Radio
 |  Media  |  Forum  |  Wiki  |  Links  |  Store
Forum with support of Syndicator RSS
 FAQFAQ   CalendarCalendar   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   LinksLinks
 RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in  Chat RoomChat Room 
 Forum index » DIY Hardware and Software » Klee sequencer
Super Klee Sequencer
Post new topic   Reply to topic Moderators: Scott Stites, Uncle Krunkus, v-un-v
Page 2 of 27 [659 Posts]
View unread posts
View new posts in the last week
Mark the topic unread :: View previous topic :: View next topic
Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 25, 26, 27 Next
Author Message
Scott Stites
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: Dec 23, 2005
Posts: 4121
Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
Audio files: 96

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks, Uncle K. You're really right about that hole - this one is like a crater for me. I was honored to be invited to speak about Jeff's synthesizer and music yesterday at his memorial service. It was an amazing event - that's the way I'd like things to go when I kick off. It was truly a celebration of his life - I never saw a tear or a hanky. It was held in the chapel at KSU, where Jeff was an associate professor of statistics. The service consisted of his colleagues, family and friends speaking of the various aspects of his life they'd come to know and love. Truly uplifting, and true to form of the kind of guy Jeff was.

Take care,
Scott
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Scott Stites
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: Dec 23, 2005
Posts: 4121
Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
Audio files: 96

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A few belated samples of the basic Model 2 Klee functionality.

A brief overview - this is a 1X16 shift register, with 16 switches to parallel load bit patterns. Right now there is no random input. Patterns are loaded either by sending a pulse to the 'load' input, hitting the load button, or by connecting a bit output to the stage load input (same sort of thing as a sequencer that can reset at a certain step for different lengths of sequences). Right now there are only four pots controlling the output voltage - one pot each on the 4th, 8th, 12th and 16th bit. In the final version, there will be 16 pots so this section can also act as a 'normal' sequencer.

This method of forming sequences I've come to refer to as 'found sequencing'. The process is that one sets the four pots for intervals, and then tries different bit patterns to explore the relationship that has been set up with the pots. The number and location of the selected bits can change the sequence *radically* or slightly. Using the stage load function creates even greater variation and makes it easier to synchronize pattern changes.

On sample 6, I set the pots up specifically for standard 'western' intervals by tuning each pot separately to a specific note, using my DW6000 as a reference. I let the sequence run, hit stage load to shorten the length, and while it's in stage load, I vary one switch position up and down before releasing stage load. This creates a nice little pattern within a pattern. 2.05 MB.

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/scottnoanh/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/kleemod2_sample6.mp3

Sample 2 is just me running the circuit through its paces so that one can kind of get an idea what switching a few of the switches around does. It can change much more radically than what is heard, but I just stuck to a few switch changes and used the stage load to more or less sync the changes. I vary the clock and the tuning of the voices themselves (though not of the pots on the circuit) as the sample progresses. It gives a glimpse into 'finding' a sequence. 2.9 MB

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/scottnoanh/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/kleemod2_sample2.mp3

Sample 3 is just a sequence with no pattern changes - just a little demo of how 'normal' the function can sound using four pots and multiple bits rather than a single bit like a 'normal' sequencer does. 1.7 MB

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/scottnoanh/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/kleemod2_sample3.mp3

The circuit itself is quite simple, considering what it can do. I'll post it when I get a decent copy drawn up. Of course, it will expand, too.

Cheers,
Scott

Edit: Added file size info
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Scott Stites
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: Dec 23, 2005
Posts: 4121
Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
Audio files: 96

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Some pics and a sample.


klee_patch.JPG
 Description:
Pic of the Klee breadboard driving a KS-01 patch.
 Filesize:  125.89 KB
 Viewed:  308 Time(s)
This image has been reduced to fit the page. Click on it to enlarge.

klee_patch.JPG



klee_bb.JPG
 Description:
The Model 2 Klee circuit on breadboard (with alligator clip position switches).
 Filesize:  136.17 KB
 Viewed:  284 Time(s)
This image has been reduced to fit the page. Click on it to enlarge.

klee_bb.JPG


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Uncle Krunkus
Moderator


Joined: Jul 11, 2005
Posts: 4760
Location: Sydney, Australia
Audio files: 52
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cool!
_________________
What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
v-un-v
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 8934
Location: Birmingham, England, UK
Audio files: 11
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Scott, perhaps you should change 'klee' to jackson pollock??? Shocked hehe Cool
_________________
ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Scott Stites
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: Dec 23, 2005
Posts: 4121
Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
Audio files: 96

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks Unca K and V-un-v. The breadboard does sort of look like something Pollock would have put to canvas. Very Happy

In this sample the Klee is acting more like a 'normal' sequencer - I didn't change any of its pattern switches throughout. Instead, I had it driving the four singal sources I used in the sequence, but also had the keyboard patched to the extra expo input of one of my Schmitz VCO3's - this is what provided the extra little quite notes heard throughout. The sequence was 'found' with a particular switch setup and the four Klee pots.

There was only one VCO (the VCO3) used for the voices. I used one half of my dual late MS-20 filter in self resonance as a signal source for the main 'low' part heard in the sample. It's patched through the wave multiplier. Before it was sent to wave multiplier it was multed to an input on my ring modulater. The triangle wave of the VCO was patched to the other input, and the ring modulated product of the two was used as the third signal source. The VCO, wave multiplied resonant MS-20 filter, and the ring modulated product of the two signals were patched into my 2040 clone filter, then through a VCO into my mixer module.

The fourth signal source was the Dark Star Chaos 2000 patched into the other half of the MS-20 filter in high pass mode (for a bit of wang), passed through a second VCA and into the second input of the mixer module. This is the atonal sequence that is faded out about halfway through.

The Klee was providing voltage control to the two halves of the MS-20 filter, the 2040 filter, the VCO and the DSC2000. It, in turn, was being clocked by a pulse wave LFO. The Klee was providing gate and trigger output to the EG controlling the 2040 filter and its VCA. The same LFO used to clock the Klee was providing a gate to the second EG, which was controlling the HP filter the DSC2000 was passing through and its VCA.

As mentioned before, the keyboard was also controlling the intial pitch of the VCO - this is what provided the variation in pitch of the rapid notes heard intermittently through the sample. Because the VCO was also controlled by the Klee, pitch changes would also occur when the Klee changed its control voltage. Towards the end of this sample, the Klee control was disconnected from the VCO, and the notes heard do not follow the Klee, though they are filtered and ring modulated with a filter and signal source that were both controlled by the Klee. In fact, the VCO is only heard mixed in at the very beginning of the sample - I then mix it out so that only its product is heard in the ring modulated voice. In the longer version, it starts out that way, then I mix in the straight VCO signal (sawtooth) to the mixer.

In the longer version, I start out with the direct VCO mixed out, then I connect the square output of the wave multiplier to the sync input of the VCO, mix in the VCO, disconnect the VCO from the Klee, disconnect the sync, then reconnect the Klee for variation in timbre and towards the end of that section is where I started this shorter sample. It was 3 MB, so I opted just to post the tail end of it.

Cheerio,
Scott
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Uncle Krunkus
Moderator


Joined: Jul 11, 2005
Posts: 4760
Location: Sydney, Australia
Audio files: 52
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My stripboard finger's gettin' itchy! Wink
_________________
What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
seraph
Editor
Editor


Joined: Jun 21, 2003
Posts: 12099
Location: Firenze, Italy
Audio files: 33
G2 patch files: 2

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

v-un-v wrote:
Scott, perhaps you should change 'klee' to jackson pollock??? Shocked hehe Cool

excellent remark Tom Very Happy

_________________
homepage - blog - forum - youtube

Quote:
Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex - Frank Zappa
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
v-un-v
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 8934
Location: Birmingham, England, UK
Audio files: 11
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
v-un-v wrote:
Scott, perhaps you should change 'klee' to jackson pollock??? Shocked hehe Cool

excellent remark Tom Very Happy


why thank you seraph! Very Happy

Unka K's mention of 'The Dali' sounds a pretty cool idea too hehe Cool

4 modulated delay lines all synced to one another with 8 lfo's and ring mods able to handle L.F. control voltages and quad-out naturally! Cool Laughing

_________________
ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
vtl5c3



Joined: Sep 08, 2006
Posts: 423
Location: PDX
Audio files: 13

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Soopah Clay! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked So this is where you hide out! Your writeups on the super Klee are very interesting reading. I'm looking forward to the schematics.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Scott Stites
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: Dec 23, 2005
Posts: 4121
Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
Audio files: 96

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey Romeo! Nice to see you here!

welcome

Guess I better get to work on those schematics Very Happy

Cheerio,
Scott
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Scott Stites
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: Dec 23, 2005
Posts: 4121
Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
Audio files: 96

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I added a gate/trigger bus yesterday to the Klee. As mentioned before, there will be two busses. Each stage will have a On-Off-On SPDT select either bus or neither. The stages are ANDed with the clock, from which the gates and triggers are derived. Further, there is a control that will allow adjacent selected stage gates to merge, creating one gate and trigger instead of two or more with 'adjacent' selected stages.

I found that simply ANDing the stages with the clock didn't quite cut it, at least for my EGs (my EG's have comparators on the gate and trigger inputs, which makes them very easily triggered by the slimmest of voltage spikes). The problem was that the clock would advance the stage and be ANDed with a slim part of the the current stage before it advanced a few microseconds later. I had to create a slightly delayed (around 20 uS) version of the clock to do my ANDing - otherwise, that slim spike would trigger my EG. That was a simple enough matter to fix.

This addition really explodes the capability of the Klee. The hard part about working with it is that I always want to stop and record what it's doing at the moment. This has got to be one of the funnest things I've ever worked with. It really is a blast.

Here are a couple of samples I recorded. The first one, sample 8, actually uses a function I'm considering - inversion of the selected stages for a bus to create the gates and triggers - in other words, every stage will fire a gate and trigger *except* the stages selected for that bus.

Sample 11 is a bombastic little ditty that I recorded while manipulating between 'merged' gates and triggers and then either one or two selected stages. Manipulation of these switches can create some great diversity in a sequence.

Everything in these samples was driven by the Klee, and they're all just one take (no overdubbing). On each one, I additionally controlled a VCO with keyboard while at the same time it was controlled by the Klee. Each sample is from the same patch, with different settings.

There's plenty to scratch your stripboard finger with, Uncle K Very Happy


http://mypeoplepc.com/members/scottnoanh/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/kleemod2_sample8.mp3

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/scottnoanh/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/kleemod2_sample11.mp3

Cheerioio,
Scott


kleemod2_sample11.mp3
 Description:
Super Klee Sequence, Alternately Using Merged and Non-Merged Adjacent Select Stages For Gate/Trigger Sources

Download
 Filename:  kleemod2_sample11.mp3
 Filesize:  2.24 MB
 Downloaded:  530 Time(s)


Last edited by Scott Stites on Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
v-un-v
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 8934
Location: Birmingham, England, UK
Audio files: 11
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Scott Stites wrote:

There's plenty to scratch your stripboard finger with, Uncle K Very Happy


I'm waiting, eagarly in suspence Very Happy

"Sample 11" is awesome too! Cool

_________________
ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
piedwagtail



Joined: Apr 15, 2006
Posts: 164
Location: shoreditch
Audio files: 1

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Love it,love it!

The first one had me back in the eighties,and my first hearing of Sun Ra's Disco 3000.Something about that sclicking drum sound.

I've been rewiring my tube preamp this weekend,i'm pleased that you don't do tube electronics,that ratsnest of yours would be scary.

Robert
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Scott Stites
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: Dec 23, 2005
Posts: 4121
Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
Audio files: 96

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quote:
i'm pleased that you don't do tube electronics,that ratsnest of yours would be scary.


I should have mentioned the Klee requires +/-15 kVDC.

Is that going to be a problem, Uncle K? Very Happy

In order to operate this thing, one really has to fight the urge to record everything every five minutes. Even powering it up sometimes leaves it in a random state of selected bits (I don't have any auto-reset on power-up circuitry in yet), and when it's set into motion, it often makes one want to jot down those bits as well.

Working with Thomas Henry this summer really affected my sense of excess. It didn't prevent me from using excessive circuitry, it just made me feel guilty about it Very Happy . Seriously, I need to take a close look and make sure I don't have any redundancy built into it.

Having said that, I've more or less made an attempt to employ M2L to keep the variety of required parts down. The gate/trigger bus uses strictly hex Schmitt triggers - probably 2 or 3 will be used in that section. The clock, step and load section makes use of a quad OR package, a CD4013 and a CD40106, as well as an input comparator for the incoming clock signal and external load input. I've got a CD4093 in there as well, though that will probably be replaced by a CD40106. Then, of course, there are the two CD4034s.

I have yet to put in the input comparator/randomizer section of the original Klee.

I haven't done much with the stage mixer - right now a single TL072 seems to be quite servicable for providing the output. My gate/trigger logic signal outputs right now are 15V, which the KS-01 is perfectly happy with, though I imagine there are synths that wouldn't appreciate that. I plan on converting those signal to 0 to 5V levels, though those who use MFOS stuff might consider modifying for stiffer signals. Anyway, I'll probably use ordinary op amps for those signals - TL072s work just fine for that kind of app, and aren't rare things to get hold of. All I want is the trigger period to be 1 ms, which I've taken care of in CMOS - it doesn't require anything terribly fancy to buffer/reduce it to +5V.

The hardest part is knowing when to *stop*. I can't help but look at this circuit and notice that it could also easily double as two 8 bit shift registers, with individual clocks. Easy to do, a bit more circuitry, but it's that damned panel space that's the limiting factor....

Cheers,
Scott
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
piedwagtail



Joined: Apr 15, 2006
Posts: 164
Location: shoreditch
Audio files: 1

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Actually i was slightly scared when the neon voltage stabiliser started flicking off.
But my new redesign had turned the power supply into a 150V lfo complete with spark off at every cycle.Nevermind....

I'm finding that 'when to stop' is critical!

Robert
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
v-un-v
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 8934
Location: Birmingham, England, UK
Audio files: 11
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Scott Stites wrote:

I should have mentioned the Klee requires +/-15 kVDC.

Is that going to be a problem, Uncle K? Very Happy



It's not a problem for me (My Wiard is 15v +/-). But then it would be selfish to expect 15v just for me (Laughing.......love ME!! Laughing).

12v is more popular over here (AS, A.solutions, Doepfer etc etc all use 12v)
15v is very USA I think.


PS, It took an AGE trying to hunt down a 15+/-v psu over here btw.

_________________
ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
v-un-v
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 8934
Location: Birmingham, England, UK
Audio files: 11
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

piedwagtail wrote:
The first one had me back in the eighties,and my first hearing of Sun Ra's Disco 3000.


I think it was "Disco 2000" actually. meow!! Shocked Laughing

The track with the farty bass? From the Sun Ra singles compilation??

_________________
ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Uncle Krunkus
Moderator


Joined: Jul 11, 2005
Posts: 4760
Location: Sydney, Australia
Audio files: 52
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Great samples Scott!
You could make a great track just out of the first bar of No. 11! Cool

When you do the schematics, make sure there's a good emphasis on what front panel controls it needs and your recommendations as to how they should be laid out. That's the only thing which, if not done properly from the start, could make designing the stripboards a bit ambiguous or frustrating. Does that make sense?
+/-15kV is fine with me! You might just have to find some big stripboard! But then you'd need some big components I s'pose! Shocked
I think Tom missed a "k" in there! Laughing

_________________
What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
piedwagtail



Joined: Apr 15, 2006
Posts: 164
Location: shoreditch
Audio files: 1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

V-un-V

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/200934-01.htm

Check the mp3 of Third Planet which has the drum machine.
The title track actually has the drum sound i previously mentioned but its not in the sample,or at least is very submerged in the mix 3/4 in.
Nice to hear Space is the Place again though.
They used to hop just before yeah.

Perhaps they'll need a 15kV Superklee to distribute power if there's any energy crisis up ahead and folks need to be rationed Shocked .

Robert
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
vtl5c3



Joined: Sep 08, 2006
Posts: 423
Location: PDX
Audio files: 13

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice samples! #11 has quite the bombastic bassline. What did you use for that?

So, Friday night I was working an old NY Times crossword puzzle. 37 Across was "Twittering Machine artist".... and I thought "Holy DejaVu!!!"... check the link to see what I mean: http://www.moma.org/collection/browse_results.php?object_id=37347

Idea

I think the cosmos is telling me to build a SuperKlee.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
piedwagtail



Joined: Apr 15, 2006
Posts: 164
Location: shoreditch
Audio files: 1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quote:
http://www.moma.org/collection/browse_results.php?object_id=37347


nice frontplate,certainly wasn't done at Schaeffer...... Wink

Robert
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
germaniac



Joined: Aug 04, 2006
Posts: 200
Location: California
Audio files: 7

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sample #11: I could listen to that riff all day--Klee Kosmic Kalypso! Great sounds as usual Scott!

Back to the peanut gallery for me. . . .

Joe
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Scott Stites
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: Dec 23, 2005
Posts: 4121
Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
Audio files: 96

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey Romeo,

Wow - Twittering Machine - it does seem to fit. It would be nice if I could put that on the web page I will eventually do for this project. I'm sure there are massive copyright laws to put my butt in a ringer if I did, though.

I've uploaded an illustration of the bass voice - it's actually the same patch I've used in all of these samples, more or less.

The really low, steady part of the bass is a self-resonating Schmitz late MS-20 filter in high pass mode with no input. It's run through the wave multiplier, which has the folds and offset inputs modulated by two separate tri-LFOs. It's controlled by the CV out of the Klee. It goes from the wave multiplier triangle out to the 2040 filter. I used the MS-20 filter as a simple VCO, mainly because I was too lazy to hook up a second one.

The part that plays the high and low parts along with it is a more standard thing - a VCO controlled by both the Klee and my keyboard. The pulse wave goes straight to the 2040 filter.

The VCO triangle is ring modulated with the straight signal out of the MS-20 filter. This is fed to the third input of the 2040 filter.

When the sample first starts, I've got the ring modulated signal attenuated all the way down. Halfway through, I turn it up (the 2040 filter has input attenuators on each input). Then I hook up the pulse output of the wave multiplier to the sync input of the VCO, so the VCO gets synced to the self-resonating MS-20 filter. This is where more bom is put into the bombast for the second half of the sample. You can hear the higher notes get more gurgly/gratey from the ring modulation and sync.

The EG modulating the 2040 filter and the VCA is fired by two selected gates/triggers from the Klee gate bus. I flip on the 'merge' function for the breaks you hear in the sample.

The drummy/percussiony sound is controlled by the master gate and trig output (just follows the clock, so it's constant). That was the DSC2000 through low pass late MS-20 through wave multiplier grinder section through a VCA. The signal from the 2040 filter and the grinder output both went to my mixer module, where I control the relative level between the two signals before going out to the amplifier. The grinder, BTW, is what put that clicky, pitched sound on that voice, the one Robert mentioned.

Klee Kosmic Kalypso - I love it!

Cheerio,
Scott


kleepatch1.JPG
 Description:
 Filesize:  83.85 KB
 Viewed:  309 Time(s)
This image has been reduced to fit the page. Click on it to enlarge.

kleepatch1.JPG


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
v-un-v
Janitor
Janitor


Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 8934
Location: Birmingham, England, UK
Audio files: 11
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

piedwagtail wrote:
V-un-V

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/200934-01.htm

Check the mp3 of Third Planet which has the drum machine.


Ahh! Okay. That makes sense. Actually they've just renamed the track haven't they? I say they, because the great Ra has gone to that great pyramid in the sky. I played it to Rosie, who's digging it, but she's a big Sun Ra fan anyway Cool

Does anyone remember "The time has come" e.p.? The Mo Wax track with the synthi AKS on the front cover? The only decent record that Mo Wax put out!?! hehe- that was a Sun Ra sample.

trainspotters delight Shocked Laughing

_________________
ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic Moderators: Scott Stites, Uncle Krunkus, v-un-v
Page 2 of 27 [659 Posts]
View unread posts
View new posts in the last week
Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 25, 26, 27 Next
Mark the topic unread :: View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » DIY Hardware and Software » Klee sequencer
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
e-m mkii

Please support our site. If you click through and buy from
our affiliate partners, we earn a small commission.


Forum with support of Syndicator RSS
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Copyright © 2003 through 2009 by electro-music.com - Conditions Of Use