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djdaphalgan
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Kassen
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject:
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Hmmmm, from your description it sounds like the issue might be a shortage of computer power where the Reason interface gets a higher priority then ChucK. It might also be related to video memory, scrolling a window, especially a graphics heavy one such as Reason's may also lead to bottlenecks in your system RAM if you video card shares memory with the system (this is unfortunately very normal on laptop and other build in cards). I know I can get glitches in otherwise well-behaved ChucK code if I start searching and scrolling in the PDF manual.
What you could try is increasing the priority of ChucK/the Mini in your task-manager but this could in turn lead to glitches in Reason, once performance runs out something somewhere will have to give, I fear. there's not much that could be done about that, aside from not scrolling reason ;¬), upgrading :¬( or you could consider moving the sample playback to ChucK....
Do you know the model of your video card? I suspect that's the offending component. _________________ Kassen |
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moudi
Joined: Oct 07, 2006 Posts: 63 Location: Bern Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject:
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hi djdaphalgan
djdaphalgan wrote: | I use asio4all with a crappy soundblaster live, win xp sp2 and a pc with P4 processor. |
when your're using a soundblaster live i recommend you to use the asio drivers from the kx-project: www.kxproject.com which are specially made for sb live/audigy cards.
another good source for tunig your computer to get a low latency DAW is this one here: http://www.musicxp.net
the most important thing regarding to kassen's hint would be to set the "processor task planning" (sorry i'm not sure how to translate this to english) optimized for background services if you haven't done it already.
jassas
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Kassen
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject:
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Music-XP is/was a very good resource but I can't find those tips anymore? Do they require some sort of account now? _________________ Kassen |
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moudi
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject:
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Kassen wrote: | Do they require some sort of account now? |
seems to be case. I didn't try it til now...
MusicXP.net wrote: | Membership to this portal is Public. Once your account information has been submitted, you will be immediately granted access to the portal environment. |
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djdaphalgan
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:12 am Post subject:
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Kassen wrote: | Hmmmm, from your description it sounds like the issue might be a shortage of computer power where the Reason interface gets a higher priority then ChucK. It might also be related to video memory, scrolling a window, especially a graphics heavy one such as Reason's may also lead to bottlenecks in your system RAM if you video card shares memory with the system (this is unfortunately very normal on laptop and other build in cards). I know I can get glitches in otherwise well-behaved ChucK code if I start searching and scrolling in the PDF manual.
What you could try is increasing the priority of ChucK/the Mini in your task-manager but this could in turn lead to glitches in Reason, once performance runs out something somewhere will have to give, I fear. there's not much that could be done about that, aside from not scrolling reason ;¬), upgrading :¬( or you could consider moving the sample playback to ChucK....
Do you know the model of your video card? I suspect that's the offending component. |
My video card is an Nvidia Geforce2 MX. I have 512 MB ram in my system.
Will do some more tests this evening (i am now at work). |
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djdaphalgan
Joined: Jul 19, 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject:
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Kassen wrote: | I know I can get glitches in otherwise well-behaved ChucK code if I start searching and scrolling in the PDF manual. |
Hey, the same happens here.
One thing I find strange is that the issue doesn't happen if I rewire Reason to an other daw (maybe that's because of the way rewire is implemented, do not know), and I can scroll as much pdf files as I want while playing Reason, no glitches.
Does the same issue also exists on a Mac? (take not: I do NOT want to start an other long Mac vs PC battle) |
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Kassen
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject:
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I would predict that similar things would happen on the lower end Mac's that also have video-cards that share RAM.
It's kinda hard to compare because I don't think anybody will run OSX on 512MB of RAM, then multi-task audio. XP is easier to strip down but of course there is a limit.
Multi-tasking realtime audio is simply heavy on computers and at some point it will glitch, especially with graphically heavy stuff like Reason involved.
Mac's might have a edge since they have 3d stuff (which Reason uses, right? I never used Reason) build into the windows manager and of course Ge and the other developers gravitate towards Apple but OSX will likely have more problems with a comparable system then a tuned-down version of XP.
See? We can compare them technologically without going all "versus" :¬) I'm on XP and Linux and thinking about adding a Mac if I can get around some of the things that annoy me about them. ChucK should be the same as much as possible for all three. _________________ Kassen |
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