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CHALLENGE FOR JH!!! ELECTRO HARMONIX 16 SECOND DELAY CLONE
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3vcos



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: CHALLENGE FOR JH!!! ELECTRO HARMONIX 16 SECOND DELAY CLONE Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yA, JH,

I and I think other would love to own an original EH 16 delay. The reissue was crap. The original is a classic. Clone it for them and they will love you. I'd do anything for a clone of the original....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I of course have an original for sale, so send me thousands of dollars and all of your Buchla modules. Laughing

If he can find a substitute for the Reticon 7th order filter IC, I'd love to see a reissue.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Are there readable schematics for this?

JH.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've never seen any, and I have a huge collection of EH schemos. I haven't searched them out, however, so perhaps someone will chime in with a link.

Meanwhile, send me thousands of dollars and all of your Buchla modules.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The is an abundance of information on the EH 16 second delay here and here

The best quality schematics are on this page, direct links below:

DIGITAL BOARD - http://www.sdiy.org/xyzzy/eh16/boards/digitalschematic.jpg
ANALOG BOARD - http://www.sdiy.org/xyzzy/eh16/boards/analogschematic.jpg
RETICON RF5609A DATASHEET - Page 1 2 3 4
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll try and round up info this weekend. I think the post above lists the best schematics. I'll try and find more over the next few days.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

this is the definition of low fidelity digital Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think that the Lexicon 93 sounds better but without the "Super" expansion, has nowhere near the maximum delay time. Edit: By "better", I mean more "lofi".

Thanks for the schemos, I'm going to archive them for myself.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This looks like a fun little circuit. Thanks for the links to the schemos and background information. I don't think it's a project for me, though. It's a bit much on the digital side. Razz

Out of curiousity: What did they do wrong on the reissue?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jhaible wrote:
I don't think it's a project for me, though.


Meaning that someone else is doing so?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would like to see an analog delay with LOOOONG delay times and some nice extras like modulation possibilities etc.
Something like the Maxon delay/ EH memory man but with more flexibility...
It would be probably possible to make one with mn3205s that are still in production (shangai belling, coolaudio?).
1800ms max delay time with eight 4096 stage bbds Cool Perhaps that kind of delay would become too complicated and expensive, though Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think there's so many wonderful delay boxes available today:
I have a TC D-Two, which has modulation, pingpong and filters built-in already (with a splendid user interface).
And I have a Line 6 DL-4, set permanently to Loop Sampler mode, with half speed and reverse modes available, and an extra shorter delay with individual knobs, and tap tempo.
Both are not the latest models, either, and I bet there are a few more like this on the market.
Stupid question: What did a EH 16-second reverb do that these don't ?
(I never owned a EH delay, so I'm being curious.)

JH.

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Now soldering: 4 interlocking pushbuttons Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jhaible wrote:
Now soldering: 4 interlocking pushbuttons Wink

... on a certain boss chorus clone?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

kokoon wrote:
jhaible wrote:
Now soldering: 4 interlocking pushbuttons Wink

... on a certain boss chorus clone?


Not quite. See:
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-18396-388.html

JH.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i guess i did it...

https://vimeo.com/193166289
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice work!
By all means, start a separate thread so you can show more of how you did it (pretty please Smile ).
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