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Does anyone have the MOTU Midi Timepiece II manual?
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ggm1960



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mohoyoho wrote:
got it! Thanks!


Great, glad I could help. I truly understand the frustration these units can cause!

To really get the full effect and see a summary of my "MOTU Midi Interface research" visit my thread here:

http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-21712.html
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deknow



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

...i have a mtp av (parallel port version), and for years i was really annoyed, as the only available drivers didn't work with xp (hard to install, and once installed, wouldn't let the laptop sleep, even if no device is connected).

on a recent tout through motu land (remember when they made word processors?), i found a new xp driver for this device! i can't tell you how much that changed my opinion of that company!

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ggm1960



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

deknow wrote:
...i have a mtp av (parallel port version), and for years i was really annoyed, as the only available drivers didn't work with xp (hard to install, and once installed, wouldn't let the laptop sleep, even if no device is connected).


I never knew laptops had parallel ports but then I never had a portable PC until about 1-1/2 years ago.

deknow wrote:

on a recent tout through motu land (remember when they made word processors?), i found a new xp driver for this device! i can't tell you how much that changed my opinion of that company!
deknow


I had no idea they made word processors, for PC? Everything I've learned about the MOTU midi interfaces and Mac has occured over the last 3 or 4 months.

As far as MOTU's business sense; they must be the only company left that doesn't post PDF manuals for their hardware. What a retarded business decision! I haven't found any trade secrets in the manuals and the convenience of being able to download manuals for all my other gear has made my life easier.

Often times I download manuals for gear I'm thinking about purchasing so I can discover it's abilities as well as get a jump on operating it.
I think it's obvious that this affects resale value as well.
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jtorres712966



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Does any still have this doc?
Subject description: Midi timepiece II manual
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just purchased one for next to nothing.. don't require pc use.. just looking for that chapter 12, apparently.
anyone still have it?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ggm1960 wrote:
Ok, here's the deal.
I posted the chapter 12 file here:

http://gregmein.home.mchsi.com/MTPII.htm

It's about 5.5M and I'll leave it there for a few days. Let me know when you have it or if you have trouble getting it.

Cool


The link does not work?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

pdman1 wrote:
ggm1960 wrote:
Ok, here's the deal.
I posted the chapter 12 file here:

http://gregmein.home.mchsi.com/MTPII.htm

It's about 5.5M and I'll leave it there for a few days. Let me know when you have it or if you have trouble getting it.

Cool


The link does not work?


The key words probably are "I'll leave it there for a few days" Rolling Eyes

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ggm1960



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
pdman1 wrote:
ggm1960 wrote:
Ok, here's the deal.
I posted the chapter 12 file here:

http://gregmein.home.mchsi.com/MTPII.htm

It's about 5.5M and I'll leave it there for a few days. Let me know when you have it or if you have trouble getting it.

Cool


The link does not work?


The key words probably are "I'll leave it there for a few days" Rolling Eyes


Yes, there is a limited amount of space on my mediacom account ftp site, however, I'm still around and I'm happy to, and have already, e-mailed the file to others who've requested it.

Fact is I might be able to convert it to PDF format on my Mac which might be a little more universal than a MS Word 2003 doc file.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: re: Motu MTP II manual Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If anyone wants to put this back up, you can drop it at: [url]drop.io/gswaudio[/url]
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ggm1960



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject:  Re: re: Motu MTP II manual Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mnhttnproj wrote:
If anyone wants to put this back up, you can drop it at: [url]drop.io/gswaudio[/url]


I don't know how to do that but just yesterday I signed up for MS's new freebie Skydrive service. I posted the file there. It can stay there so feel free to download it, place it at your own site, whatever.

The link is:

arrow http://cid-6f2ce1aec0191d74.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/MOTU_MTPII

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Midi Time Piece Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have something even older than a Midi Time Piece II. A plain Midi Time Piece.

After spending the day trying to get it to work with a OSX laptop using a Fastlane midi interface (also MOTU) I'm coming to the conclusion it's not possible.

I continue to use my Midi Time Piece with an older mac, but does anyone know if it can be used with a newer Mac?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Midi Time Piece Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

pmayor wrote:
I have something even older than a Midi Time Piece II. A plain Midi Time Piece.

After spending the day trying to get it to work with a OSX laptop using a Fastlane midi interface (also MOTU) I'm coming to the conclusion it's not possible.

I continue to use my Midi Time Piece with an older mac, but does anyone know if it can be used with a newer Mac?


Not a chance, OS9 only.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey GGM - I just found this thread. I am in a similar situation with the MOTU Timepiece AV. I don't have a manual.

Could you make Chapter 12 available for download again? I'm trying to figure out the programming using the front panel, but it's pretty painful. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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rmanasa



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi GGM -

I've just picked up a MOTU Midi Express XT Parallel port Mac/PC, and of course there isn't a manual. If I could impose upon you to post or email a copy, I'd be happy to convert your Word doc to a pdf for you (assuming MOTU doesn't object.) Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

rmanasa wrote:
Hi GGM -

I've just picked up a MOTU Midi Express XT Parallel port Mac/PC, and of course there isn't a manual. If I could impose upon you to post or email a copy, I'd be happy to convert your Word doc to a pdf for you (assuming MOTU doesn't object.) Thanks!


I do have one of these units. It included the manual and original discs, however, all that is useless and irrelevant. The manual and discs are only for OS9 and Windows95. I've never scanned or copied the manual and since there's no real useful information contained in it, I don't see any need to.

Don't confuse these units with the more feature laden models like the MTP II and MTP AV.
The Express XT doesn't include deep editing and setup features like MIDI Canons, Modifiers or Patches.

The Express XT is little more than a MIDI router/merger and all it's features are easily accessible and intuitive using the latest OSX and WinXP versions of Clockworks available from the MOTU website.

The posted link for chapter 12 of the MTP II manual is still active, however, you won't find it to be any use for these units.

Go download the Clockworks program from the MOTU and you'll soon see what I mean when I say you don't need a manual for the Express XT.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK ggm. Thanks for the info. MIDI routing is all I'm looking for at this time, so I'm fine with it being a "thinly featured" product.

I had no idea it was so ... old though. Windows 95? That makes it what, at least 15 years old? Yikes! I did find a single page doc on the MOTU site about ensuring "functionality with my MOTU parallel MIDI interface under Windows 2000 or Windows XP", so it apparently made it across into the 21st century.

Again, assuming it will let me merge and mix my various computer, keyboard and module ins and outs, I'll call it $20 well spent, and get a first look at MOTU products. If it serves me well in this capacity, I'll see about upgrading to something with more bells and whistles a little further down the road.

Thanks again to you and all the other respondents. Nice to see an active board with knowledgeable and helpful members.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

PLEEEEEASE ! post it again ! i only have the chapter 12 !
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

egodzillal wrote:
PLEEEEEASE ! post it again ! i only have the chapter 12 !
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If you're running OS9 on an RS422 (geoport) Mac you can get the full featured version of Clockworks from www.motu.com which will do all the stuff the MTP is capable of.

I scanned and posted chapter 12 from the MTP II manual as a favor to Windows users for whom the manual is essentially irrelevant. The MTP & MTP II are not software accessible via Windows at all but the front panel controls can still be used for routing/merging setups.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject:
Subject description: MOTU Midi Timepiece II Chapter 2 now posted
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By request I scanned and posted chapter 2 from the MTP II manual. Chapter 2 addresses networking more than one MTP II.

It's available at the same download location.

The link is:

arrow http://cid-6f2ce1aec0191d74.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/MOTU_MTPII
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Chapter 2 Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks!
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