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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:13 am    Post subject: Symbolic Composer 5.1 Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Symbolic Composer 5.1 is the largest and most popular music language available for computers -- now with powerful VRML 3D Macros, that let the composer fuse together music and architecture. Symbolic Composer 5.1 totals over 1000 music algorithms suitable for modern, dance, classic, electronic, ambient, contemporary and experimental styles. It covers 300 microtonal world-music and theoretical scales, and (probably) all chords and scales used in the last 500 years of music history.

Symbolic Composer is a massive collection of computer music and research algorithms packed in an efficient and interactive development environment. Symbolic Composer's rich music molecule dictionary enables the composer to extend musical capabilities, helping to realize the maximum power of studio investments spent on synthesizers and sequencers.


Besides providing the composer a toolbox of traditional composition tools Symbolic Composer also enables the composer to explore advanced fractal and chaos mathematics for determining compositional elements -- right out of box, or defining custom algorithms with industry-standard Common Lisp language.

http://www.symboliccomposer.com/page_main.shtml

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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How would a fugue sound if Bach had lived in India and had access to sampler technology? How does a 12-tone serial piece sound in the style of Rave Party? Would you like to compose for 59-step tuned piano?

Shocked Shocked Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You ever tried this one?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Carlo, can you reduce the width of this picture to about 700 pixels? Thanks.

This looks like Band In A Box on steroids.

Bachus, aka Robert, was discussing building a composition system many years ago, I wonder if this is similar to what he was aiming at.

I like the ascii file as the core of the score. That way, one can use this program as a realizer for your own composition algorithms you write in other languages. I prefer to write music composition algorithms in awk. In the past my only output mechanism as pure MIDI. Then I discovered Tim Thompson's Keykit and switched to it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
You ever tried this one?

no, I was wondering if anyone had tried it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Carlo, Bachus, aka Robert, was discussing building a composition system many years ago, I wonder if this is similar to what he was aiming at.


Might be. Am almost through with the piece that I've been working on. As soon as it's done I'm going to download the demo and see what's up.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Carlo, can you reduce the width of this picture to about 700 pixels? Thanks.

This looks like Band In A Box on steroids.

Bachus, was discussing building a composition system many years ago, I wonder if this is similar to what he was aiming at. .


As it turns out, no. It's just an algorithmic composition language. What I was working towards was an expert (Blackboard) system that would manipulate very high level compositional algorithms but would not require the user to deal with them directly. Symbolic Composer's site shows hierarchy graphs and those do look like some I showed you way back when, but any composition system would have to deal with numerous hierarchical structures of diverse kinds. Other than hierarchies the only commonality I find is the use of Common Lisp.

Their promotions suggest very high level capabilities but the reality seems far from that--but they don't seem to make it easy to find out. And at $400.00 it looks way over priced to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nothing against Symbolic Composer, but Keykit is already symbolic enough to me. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would try Symbolic, but I run my audio programs on Linux, so for a VERY limited demo that may or may not run off Wine, $400+ is a bit much.

If they offer a more functional demo version, I'll try it before deciding whether to buy it. It'd really have to beat the pants off everything else I can get for free/open source.
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