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Hing Hon EK-001
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Hing Hon EK-001 Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey there !

I know a lot of people have already stumbled across this keyboard as I did some time ago. It has probably been produced more often than any other toy-keyboard all over the world.

Besides that it has a very characteristic sound, a mic input and is GREAT for circuit bending. It actually is my most successful bent.

Has anyone of you ever bent one? I accidentaly desoldered the mic-input jack, but i'd like to attach it again. does anyone of you know where to solder it on the pcb?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Electri-fire has done some stuff with this one:
http://www.electri-fire.com/bartsmit.htm

I'm intrigued, need to see if these are available so I can play with it too.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yep, but my web page has been screwed up AGAIN for some reason. No sounds, pics missing.

Well, the weltschule/tableHooters/waranty Void site has all the basic bends. The site is down a lot, I recommend you save the info.

More fun: Totally remove the pitch resistor and replace with a pot 500K-1M or higher. This thing can be pitched WAY down. I had a pitch with two 1.5M pots in parallel I liked a lot, as you can use one to set the range.

It's duophonic, each voice has it's own envelope signal sent from the blob that is smoothed with two capacitors. These can be replaced, or a pot inserted, or voltages added to change / scale / modulate the envelope. when doing different bends or settings at each capacitor with each key played the envelopes alternate.

An electri-fire discovery: Play with multiple sound select buttons held down. Now pitch way down. Nice right? I had the sound select buttons paralleled with spdt switches to select the button holds.

Mic connection? Ooh, I don't know. Somewhere near the amp section. Usually a 386 poweramp: http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM386.pdf (pin 2 or 3 ? , but I've had versions with a transistor amp as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

droffset wrote:
I'm intrigued, need to see if these are available so I can play with it too.


You can find one eventually, they're all over the place, in different casings. I have a subject on my page on recognising the right circuit, with some example pics of toy keyboards, but my web provider keeps messing up the page for some reason.

Anything with the 8 (sometimes less) sounds, 4 drum pads, 37 keys, optional mic in might be the right target.

Seemingly similar versions with animal samples etc. are usually less bendable, more crash prone. The Hing-on doesn't crash. Ever. I've very slowly fried a couple though. Half fried sounds best. Absolutely fabulous. But you might want to stay away from the battery/amp section or poke with a small resistor in between your probes.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wow, this person wants $55, I'd like to pay much less. Razz

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HING-HON-EK-001-Square-Wave-Keyboard-Synthesizer-in-Box_W0QQitemZ170440700052QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKeyboards_MIDI?hash=item27af0eb094

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I never payed more than 5 euros at fleemarkets. That said, I haven't been looking for more bend targets for the last two years, I still have two or three unbent EK-1's among my stuff. I was having the impression the amount on offer is diminishing.

But $55? That's utterly ridiculous. I call that robbery.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think I got one, we'll see when it arrives in a few days, yayyy.

Also, Detox I think I found a schematic of this.

Useful link for info, pdf on pg 4:
http://www.circuitbenders.co.uk/forum/forums.html/topic,142.0.html



Interesting link:
http://store.platinumgalleria.com/ak900.html

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tetoks....you are going to LOVE this thing!

not only is it easy to bend, it is also very versitile. most of it is hand wired, so this makes it all easy to find.

heads up on a few things though:
• when the screws are not tightened, it is hard to produce a sound from the keyboard, because the sensors do not hit well.
• turn it upside down and be careful with removing bottom well. otherwise, those rubber buttons will go EVERYWHERE! not fun!
• you will find on the voices, when you press more than one key at a time, it sounds very glitchy...this is cool! i found the wires for these, and hooked them up to a rca patchbay!
• you can find lots of groovy stuff, pitch bends, etc. i am sure you will find even more than i did!
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Darn,I'm afraid these are getting scarce. Just a few years ago I left fleemarkets with maybe two or three, this year I found not a single one. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I THOUGHT I had one but I'm not sure... There's a COB in it but it might not be the same...
If we can get a few thousand dollars together maybe the company will make some for us. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

droffset wrote:
I THOUGHT I had one but I'm not sure..


Good signs:

You get the "hold multiple soundselect buttons" glitch
Microphone input
The 8 sounds and rhythms, 4 drumpads.
Good pitchbend without crashing

Bad signs:
Drum or animal samples
Crashes with high pitchbends
Modern additions like record sequence or LDC screen

You might post a photo.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: Americanize that shit Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The only bend I have on the last one of these I picked up is a 500 ohm pot on the + battery wire. It does somewhat velocity-sensitive envalope-sounding pitch mods with the pitch going up, I'm sure the power mod would do much more with other mods of course. My other one I had those 4 drum buttons hooked up to a couple spots, and you could hold them down with the thing off and do all sorts of cool sounds, like phased lofi noise sounds. I personally got much better mods out of this with the power switch in the off position...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Also, if during bending this keyboard the 4 drum buttons stop working, I posted a paragraph on how to fix that here.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

these things are a blast to bend!!!

hook up a few 500k pots...i found one bend that distorts, one that pitch shifts, i disconnected the"voice" buttons and wired a patch bay...WEIRD!

i was just looking at an elenco manual for a similar keyboard, and i came to the conclusion that mine is different! there is an op-amp and a 9037 in the elenco version. i looked inside of mine, and there was a small, pbc with a couple of transistors (not sure if npn or pnp yet), and a handful of resistors, 2 diodes and caps. there is also a small circuit for the keyboard. pretty cool!

i have a feeling that i could be doing so much more with this baby than i have!
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