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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:03 pm    Post subject: excellent piano/keyboard link Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

very cool and useful Java app. that displays about a million scales and chords..

check this one out, i am sure you will boomark it !~


http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not bad.

Hey.. Paul.. I get a "The page “chord house ::: piano room: chords and scales” has content of MIME type “”. You do not have a plug-in installed for this MIME type, so this content can not be displayed." ??
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Huh.. this error message sounds like sex in the 80s. Shocked Very Happy Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mmhh

works for me Ok on Netscape 7.1

do u have java enabled ?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
Huh.. this error message sounds like sex in the 80s. Shocked Very Happy Cool


i don't think i will ask.. hehehe
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hihi
great, you wouldn´t really wanna know.. trust me. Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I love it!
Lots of scales I haven't seen before.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For lots of scales almost no one has never seen before go there:
"I Want To Talk About You" - John Coltrane
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Pantheon/2136/talkabout.html

make sure to follow the "go deeper" and "go sideways" links
Enjoy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

More scales?

Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns
by Nicolas Slonimsky

Since its publication in 1947, great musicians and composers of all genres - from Arnold Schoenberg and Virgil Thomson to John Coltrane and Freddie Hubbard - have sworn by this legendary volume and its comprehensive vocabulary of melodic patterns for composition and improvisation.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/082561449X/002-5050099-5028860?v=glance

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And what about scales using microtones?

Microtuning
Use Your Synth’s Alternate-Tuning Capability to Achieve "Perfect Pitch"
by Scott Wilkinson

Anyone who works with synthesizers knows that an infinite number of pitches exists between two notes separated by an octave. All you have to do is move the pitch wheel while playing a note to prove the existence of an infinite palette of pitches within an octave. Therefore, it seems strange that Western music uses only 12 pitches. Those 12 pitches, which are repeated in each octave, are the basic foundation of most Western music styles.

Guess what? Except for octaves, none of the intervals and chords played with those pitches are precisely in tune. Musicians normally don't notice that their music is minutely out of tune, because they have become accustomed to the 12 pitches during the past 200 years.

http://www.iaekm.org/0207_fe3.html

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Microtonal Synthesis

A database of synthesizers, samplers, digital pianos, electronic instruments, portable keyboards, sound cards and software synthesizers with user programmable microtonal scales or tunings: just intonation, non-12 equal temperament, well temperament, xenharmonics, etc.

http://home.austin.rr.com/ginasbaskets/microtonal-synthesis/

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
More scales?

Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns
by Nicolas Slonimsky


One of my favorite books. I met Slonimsky back in the 1970's. We were his hosts when he visited Mills College. Not only was he brilliant and he knew everyone in 20th century music history, but he hag a tremendous sense of humor.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
I met Slonimsky back in the 1970's. We were his hosts when he visited Mills College. Not only was he brilliant and he knew everyone in 20th century music history, but he had a tremendous sense of humor.


I have an old book wrote by him:
"The road to music" published by Dodd, Mead & Company in 1947 that I found used in a bookstore in Boston. It's interesting and very amusing.
The start of the book is:
"All you need to know to understand this book is the alphabet from A to G". Isn't cool? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
"All you need to know to understand this book is the alphabet from A to G". Isn't cool? Very Happy


Is cool. Very Happy

Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns is produced by an algorithm. It includes every possible scale within the limits of 12 tone chromatic scale. It has scales of from 4 to 12 notes. I wonder if all of his scales are included in http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/ ?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PIANOMANIA: LYLE MAYS AND THE EXPANDING PIANO

http://archive.keyboardonline.com/features/pianomania/lylemays.shtml

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PIANOMANIA: LYLE MAYS AND THE EXPANDING PIANO


I listened to the mp3. Nice dreamy piano music in minor key, but is this expanding the piano? I was expecting to hear something completely different, or at least innovative. Am I missing something?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I guess that the idea of the "expanding piano" is taking a performance on a MIDIed piano and assigning the original notes (played on piano) to other sound sources like synthesizers and/or samplers as if orchestrating the original piano performance.
I have the album. It is not harmonically experimental. It's pleasant music. It's the timbral treatment of the piano performance that enhances it.
Lyle Mays wrote:
Dropping the basic recordings into stereo tracks in Opcode Studio Vision, he then began to build incredibly detailed tracks around them, triggering sounds from his synth collection and the new batch of samples, using the MIDI performances from the original session........Though they may be mutated to the point of being unrecognizable, any sound on Solo other than Lyle's original acoustic piano came either from his Mad Hatter sampling session, or from one of the following pad-producing synths: Kurzweil K2500, Korg DW-8000 and Wavestation rack, and Roland JV-2080. String samples were played via an E-mu E4 and Roland S-760.

The article explains the procedure Very Happy

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seraph wrote:
the idea of the "expanding piano" is taking a performance on a MIDIed piano and assigning the original notes (played on piano) to other sound sources like synthesizers and/or samplers as if orchestrating the original piano performance.


Ahh. I do that all the time. Never thought of it as expansion, but I guess that's a good term for it. I usually drop out the piano sound. Thanks, for the explaination.
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Speaking of soft piano, here's a little night music I recorded last night. Expanded piano, without the piano. Cool

http://electro-music.com/m3us/epiano-improv041003.m3u
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

some more ambient music

http://www.sitesakamoto.com/chainmusic/

no piano included

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

On the same site, click on the picture. Not electro, but...

http://www.sitesakamoto.com/index2.html
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/baoppe.html
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J. Robert Oppenheimer
1904 - 1967

Robert Oppenheimer's name has become almost synonymous with the atomic bomb, and also with the dilemma facing scientists when the interests of the nation and their own conscience collide.

P.S.
This thread started with piano chords and ends up with the atomic bomb.
An intricate and tortuous path connects these things together: chords, scales, piano music, night music and finally "a sorrowful tale of death and despair" told by a cello, a piano and a scientist.
Interesting line of thought!
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