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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:24 am    Post subject: 115th AES Coverage Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://www.arturia.com/en/cs80v.lasso
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Arturia Unveils Software Version of Yamaha's CS-80

The CS-80V is the reproduction of the legendary Yamaha® CS-80, which is considered by many as the "ultimate polyphonic synthesizer".
More than 25 years after its release, the time has come to rediscover a sound that has extensively contributed to the history of music...

 

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http://www.rme-audio.com/english/download/drivers.htm
OS X Core MIDI Drivers Planned for RME Audio Cards
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http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCore
PowerCore Version 1.8 Update Adds Guitar Amp Plug-In
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http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/xcards.php
X-Series FireWire Expansion Card Connects Rosetta 800 to Your Computer
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Dynamic EQ Plug-In Announced for PowerCore Platform

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Hammerfall DSP MADI Now Available

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am a betatester of the arturia cs80 instrument. This one rocks. Thyere are of course some very very obvious differences between this one and the original.. but.. apart from those.. the Arturia instrument is a killer instrument. I do not have a cs80 at the moment so I cannot A/B test the sound.. but in essence it sounds the way I remember it.

I hope Arturia get around to do versions of the Octave Cat 2 and the Korg PS series. I love the PS synths. -And a good, slightly improved version of the Roland Jupiter 6
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
I hope Arturia get around to do versions of the Octave Cat 2 and the Korg PS series. I love the PS synths. -And a good, slightly improved version of the Roland Jupiter 6

I'm waiting for the Arturia version of the Nord Modular.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
I'm waiting for the Arturia version of the Nord Modular.

I am waiting for the Arturia version of myself Very Happy Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
I am waiting for the Arturia version of myself Very Happy Shocked

Laughing
I'm afraid that this is still beyond the state-of-the-art, at least using only the host processor. To have a good version of you, Carlo, there would have to be some auxilliary DSPs. Laughing Maybe about a million; maybe more than that.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
I am a betatester of the arturia cs80 instrument. This one rocks. There are of course some very very obvious differences between this one and the original.. but.. apart from those.. the Arturia instrument is a killer instrument. I do not have a cs80 at the moment so I cannot A/B test the sound.. but in essence it sounds the way I remember it.

What was so great about the CS80 in it's day? Why would someone want to use one today?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well.. it did have good sounds.. it had a nice layout.. easy to set up patches on the fly..
All in all it had a great personality. It was quite special.

Today?? well.. yes.. it is nice... and if you kick out all the unkool issues that absolutely all analog synths are known for.. you know.. the cs80 as a virtual instrument is close to perfect...

The cs80 was not much of a noisemaker.. but perfect for tonal stuff.. very expressive and the nature of the sounds it created were kinda a bit outside what ARPs, Moogs, the early Oberheim polyphonics etc etc delivered.

The weight of the CS80 was unbelievable.. over 200 lbs

The CS80 had no CV/gate in/outs .. nothing.. and that is a sad thing .. some of those very fat sounds were perfect for sequencing.. oldstyle..

The 6 user patch memories were .. almost.. sensible..

It had a " feature" often called natural detuning. A lot of vangelis recordings uses this feature of the CS 80 to great effect.

And then the beast had its own detuning feature. Transporting the CS80s using the four casters usually ensured you would get an "instant Arnold Schoenberg" device on stage.. it would sound like a 12 note work in free fall into the atmosphere.. and tuning the CS 80 was mostly a battle you could never win... so.. in that respect.. Arturia delivers the first working version of the CS 80 ever Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ha ha... Laughing

Thanks, great info. I never came across one of these beasts (200 lbs), but I'm on the noisy side of things.

Interesting how the noise word is in used here. Is this the way we should describe music that is not created with discrete notes? We need a better word. I don't think, for example, that much of my music is noise, but rather music that is harmonically expanded in continus time. The word noise implies unpleasantness. There are, however, people who like the term noise to describe their music. Maybe we should start another topic...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

....noise.. typical of designs like the ARPs, Octave Instruments, Oberheims, the Moogs etc. you could do sensible synthesis work on sounds not intended to be traditionally tonal and/or not intended to be played as traditional tonal events etc etc.. creating interesting textures..

A lot of the early polysynths were intended for traditional playing.. perfect for Toto style songs.. etc etc. The CS 80s was not much different in that respect but it had a wonderful ring modulation section.

When speaking of japanese polysynth designs.. the Korg PS series was something really special and represented a completely different design philosophy.. for interesting sounds.. go for the PS series.. the CS 80 basically represents that late 70s big fat polysynth sound.. ( but it can do some killer leads too )

Instrument designers started to pursue traditional pop music and traditional keyboard players in the mid 70s and that has been the major trend up until the mid 90s. Most traditional synth designs that were great for real synthesis work disappeared from the market by the mid 80s.

My use of the term noise here.. was to kinda illustrate the design philosophy of the CS 80. Its main use would be for very traditional tonal playing.. this is a box you can use for that Vangelis style brass synth sound
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My use of the term noise here.. was to kinda illustrate the design philosophy of the CS 80. Its main use would be for very traditional tonal playing. This is a box you can use for that Vangelis style brass synth sound


Yes, I know what you meant.

Good explanation of the synth evolution during the mid-70s through early 90's. I was never drawn to those "polysynths" because I never had enough money - having blown all my budget on the Moog Modular system. Smile These synths did generate a lot of "pop" electronic music that I haven't been able to get into. I could list lots of names here, but since I didn't get into this music, I will come of short. Wink
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http://www.ableton.com/forums.html?main=live
Ableton Releases Live 3
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Live 3 is the real-time audio production solution that eliminates the boundaries between composition, performance, recording and sound design. Easily combine loops, phrases and songs from diverse origins. Create music on the fly, without being bound to a fixed timeline. Improvise song arrangements, instantly drop samples on cue, interact with other performers, musicians or DJs. Record multi-track audio or real-time loops. Instantly change the tempo, melody, groove and sonic signature of your sounds at any time. Enter your samples and work 'from within' to create endless variations.
Live 3 combines all of these possibilities in a simple and friendly environment that lets your creativity flow without limitations.

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INTAKT, NI KOMPLETE, KONTAKT 1.5, TRAKTOR DJ Studio 2.5
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The AES Convention in New York opened on October 10th, and Native Instruments has unveiled some very exciting news for the last quarter of 2003: INTAKT – the loop sampler with beat slicing, time stretching and an enormous loop library, NI KOMPLETE – a powerful and comprehensive package including nine NI products, KONTAKT 1.5 – the major update bringing Beat Slicing, a new Time Machine and Mac OS X Support to NI’s full-feature sampler, and TRAKTOR DJ Studio 2.5 – the professional DJ software expanded with real-time pitch shifting and time stretching.
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MOTU Unveils 896HD 192kHz FireWire Audio Interface
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18 inputs, 8-bus monitor mixer, 8 mic preamps, plus expansion
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New MX4 Virtual Instrument from MOTU
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