Should this competition be an annual event? |
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Stream Operator
Joined: Oct 13, 2007 Posts: 6221 Location: near Austin, Tx, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:58 am Post subject:
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eep! thanks! I forgot about the no-competition directive from mosc! No vote, no vote, no vote!
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elmegil
Joined: Mar 20, 2012 Posts: 2177 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject:
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Didn't mean it to be THAT serious, Les! |
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject:
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It would still be nice to have an overview of what people did
Or an overhear I guess _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject:
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Hmm .. maybe a challenge broadcast? Les? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Stream Operator
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject:
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Jan, That's a great idea! i'll do a show on the challenge results!
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject:
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_________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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brock
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 112 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject:
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D'oh!...I forgot about the no competition directive too.
An overview is a good idea, and the broadcast; give some recognition to the guys who completed stuff. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject:
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brock wrote: | give some recognition to the guys who completed stuff. |
Oh Les knows how to handle that properly
He has a regular show again BTW .. or rather every friday ... see http://www.electro-music.com/~janpunter/view_schedule.php for the radio schedule.
Hearing forward here _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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trav
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject:
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hey Les, you got the chips! can you flip for me? |
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Stream Operator
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:27 am Post subject:
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Well, I flipped for ya trav and you got HT, which is Bag C. Contents to follow.
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Stream Operator
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:44 am Post subject:
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Here you go trav:
Bag C - trav
4001 x 5 quad 2-input NOR
4011 x 1 quad 2-input NAND
4013 x 4 dual DFF with set/reset capability
4023 x 4 trile 3-input NAND
4051 x 1 8 channel analog multiplexer/demultipolexer
4082 x 2 dual 4-input AND
4093 x 3 quad 2input NAND Schmitt Trigger
4518 x 5 dual BCD up counter
So you got basically just a bag of logic with some counters, a mux, and two some DFF's. It's just like my bag. Pretty bleak if you ask me but with all that abundance of logic you can probably build whatever you want!
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Psyingo
Joined: Jun 11, 2009 Posts: 248 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:41 am Post subject:
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That's a lot of inverting logic! Fun stuff can be done. As i am a lover of linear cmos, this would be great for that stuff. My bag last year wasn't so lucky, i had to do without lots of inverting logic, instead i got a bunch of almost useless chips. 4019 anyone? /pukes/ |
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Stream Operator
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:09 pm Post subject:
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That's a good point, I think I'll do some linear cmos this time also!
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elmegil
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject:
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I have two different bags headed my way, I will flip a coin once they get here (hopefully sometime next week). |
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Stream Operator
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:17 am Post subject:
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Ah, great, Elmegil, cause I think if Dr. Offset plays we will have need of one more virtual bag!
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trav
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:52 am Post subject:
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Thanks, Les! lots of logic indeed, and I know what every one of those chips does! which is a good start. Time to start brainstorming |
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attdestroyers
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:51 am Post subject:
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i'm in... Just ordered my grab bag today. Could be cool. |
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Stream Operator
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elmegil
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject:
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I's afeared!
I have no idea what some of those things are Les, but I'm looking them up now . |
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Stream Operator
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject:
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I guess I should start a project thread for discussion of such details.
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elmegil
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject:
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Funny thing is, googling them turns up your own previous blog posts about them
Pretty clearly explained, I think. Thanks! |
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Stream Operator
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject:
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I guess that's because I wrote about those discoveries, be they novel or not, and named them so. Interesting...
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elmegil
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject:
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So one of my bags has shown up, and I expect the other shortly....going to wait to list contents until I have them both...
But the question arises...Obviously the only chips are to be the ones in the bag, but are there any limits on other types of components?
I have a rotary encoder which I thought might be interesting to mess with (quadrature and all that) and some vactrols from the EG blowout as well....
Any other limits? |
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jcintheus
Joined: Oct 16, 2011 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject:
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Limits? I'd suggest... I can't think of any suggestions. But, I do
have a question.
I just ran into an electronics goldmine of my own. Today I bought a case full
of 7400 type logic for pennies on the chip.
Would anyone be upset if I were to submit a ttl project to this "competition"?
I can't make any promises, but I'd like to try. |
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Psyingo
Joined: Jun 11, 2009 Posts: 248 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject:
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re: limits. id say adding transistors would be a no-no since you could start building logic with those. diodes are okay. but transistors/opamps/other logic shouldnt be allowed...
re:7400 as long as it were 25 random (not chosen by you) ics then fine. the point is to give yourself limitations and get creative with trying to make something. if its just a 25 ics from a well sorted list of logic good for lunettas then im not sure it should be allowed. it needs to be truly random! its no fun unless you get some stupid ic's. |
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