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Shepard tones on the G1?
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Wout Blommers



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Shepard tones on the G1? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This mail was too big for the mailing list, so I'll put it on the forum to read...

Wout

Hi Tony;

I've attached a GIF of the G2 patch; that should be a help in figuring it
out.

Essentially, you need 8 (or however many components you want) individual
blocks, each of which contains an LFO, a sine oscillator, a multiplier, and
some level shifting/ shaping logic. The 8 LFOs must generate sawtooths that
are exactly 45 degrees out of phase; these drive the oscillator pitch. A
level shifter and a rectifier in each block converts the sawtooth to a
triangle, which then controls that block's amplitude. Mix them together and
you're mostly done.

The tricky part is tuning the oscillators. You need a master knob that sets
the pitch mode depth of all 8 LFOs; that's what the LevMult1's and the
purple cords do. The Fade modules change the direction of motion; they are
only accurate at the positive and negative extremes (a switch would have
been better.)

Have fun. To me the real challenge is in figuring out how to use this in a
musical context; so far I've drawn a blank on that.



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On 3/25/2005 at 9:32 AM Tony Cappellini wrote:


>Has anyone developed a patch for the G1 to generate Shepard tones?
>I've seen several for the G2 in the forum, but nothing for the G1.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What I use for shepard scales is a fairly straightforward setup with sines for all harmonics and a modulus function to repeat the same octave over the whole keyboard. This makes them fairly intuitively to play naturally and you get to keep your pitchbend.

As for musical aplications.... Well, I don´t think it´s that hard to aply, it´s just that it only makes sense if you wish to drive your listeners insane and of cource you yourself need to listen to it while composing. I once made myself physically sick while making a nasty stereo barberpole phaser, this stuff can be extremely disorienting.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Shepard tones on the G1? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
This mail was too big for the mailing list, so I'll put it on the forum to read...

Wout

Hi Tony;

I've attached a GIF of the G2 patch; that should be a help in figuring it
out.

Thanks Wout/Jim.

This is way cool.


Jim Johnson
jamos@technotoys.com

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