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mosc
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:51 am Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | I really enjoyed the Xeriod Entity CD |
Hey, is this our first review? |
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elektro80
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:01 pm Post subject:
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I have planned for a long time to sit down, put the CD on and write a bit about it. I usually play recorded music when I am working or on the move or whatever. I like it. To me this sounds like music in the grand old tradition. I have still no idea what space music is though. |
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egw
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:10 pm Post subject:
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The history of that CD is a little interesting:
Most of it was recorded the first time the 3 of us played together.
Originally it was intended to be a demo, but we decided to make it available to others.
I think that our music has improved a lot since then, as we have gotten familiar with each other's styles.
So, stay tuned for the next Xeroid CD, which should be available soon! |
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zynthetix
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:26 am Post subject:
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I see anything electronic as a glorified form of manipulating electricity...Even listening to music on your CD player falls under this classification. So from this perspective, I see an electric guitar as an electronic instrument, just as much as a synthetsizer.
It's been said before, but whoever is crafting the peice is the one who needs to insert emotion while they manipulate their medium.
A guitar player is equally capable of making emotional/unemotional music with a guitar as a synth programmer is capable of making emotional/unemotional music with a synthesizer. |
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Cyxeris
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:52 pm Post subject:
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I agree, but one has to admit that the effort necessary to pull an equally emotional performance out of a synthesizer with a sequencer, for instance, is an order of magnitude beyond that of a guitar. I am a guitarist/bassist as well as a composer and synthesist, and I can attest to that.
However, the flip side is that the control available to you, and the vast range of tonal possibilities available in the electronic world, while overwhelming, offer the individual incomprehensibly more options with regards to expression, but an equivalent increase in effort required to achieve it.
And, of course, to each their medium. Remember that the introduction of the piano ushered in a torrent of criticisms and general nastiness amongst established musicians, for precisely the same reasons our work in the electronic world has a tendency to be so detested by some. I think that it is safe to say that the academics and such really have absolutely no concept of what we do.
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elektro80
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:47 am Post subject:
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Cyxeris wrote: | I think that it is safe to say that the academics and such really have absolutely no concept of what we do.
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In the field of academic art music, there is a lot of glitching and noise and whatnot going on. Elements such as metric beat and object structures and referential tonality are usually considered to be bad and outright evil. Some working within this field find these limitations to be ok, others find it fascist. I am not in the position to judge this one way or another.
I will propose the idea that we, if we decide to make a group and a movement out of.. whatever we are doing, are completely free to project an image of what "we" do that does in in fact portray this movement as both populist and academic and able to effectively MERGE styles, theory, traditions and ideas. Doing this is the most healthy approach.
A movement might be able to communicate many of the concepts. Quite evidently the lot of us here share some basic ideas and concepts.
Quote: | Let each man exercise the art he knows.
-Aristophanes |
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elektro80
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:55 am Post subject:
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Quote: | Posted: Nov Fri 14, 2003 7:52 pm Post subject:
I agree, but one has to admit that the effort necessary to pull an equally emotional performance out of a synthesizer with a sequencer, for instance, is an order of magnitude beyond that of a guitar. I am a guitarist/bassist as well as a composer and synthesist, and I can attest to that. |
Interesting! This suggest that emotion in music might be contained and communicated by ideas not emotion as such. |
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seraph
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:22 am Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: |
I will propose the idea that we, if we decide to make a group and a movement out of.. whatever we are doing, are completely free to project an image of what "we" do that does in in fact portray this movement as both populist and academic and able to effectively MERGE styles, theory, traditions and ideas. Doing this is the most healthy approach.
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we are the missing link between populists and academics:
the popudemics _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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elektro80
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:27 am Post subject:
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Rated as an endangered species by the WWF?
Panda-demics?
anyway.. great point you made.. |
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mosc
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:30 am Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: |
Panda-demics? |
Acapopulists |
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Cyxeris
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 1:39 pm Post subject:
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[quote="elektro80"] Quote: | Posted: Nov Fri 14, 2003 7:52 pm Post subject:
Interesting! This suggest that emotion in music might be contained and communicated by ideas not emotion as such. |
Personally, I find it difficult to differentiate between emotions and ideas. The primary difference seems to be the packaging and how one deals with each. Both are reactionary to a degree, and great ideas seem to defy the status quo of rationalism, as emotions do by design. Just a thought. But thought, that is a different story...
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jkn
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject:
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Trolling for old threads again... this one is really nice.
I still say I don't care what instrument we're talking about - they're all just tools and in the right hands can be emotional or flat and dull. I agree - different instruments lend themselves to being more easily manipulated - I can "feel" the strings on my bass much more than the plastic keys on my synth. I can "feel" the weight of the piano keys and coax many different sounds and textures from them. A synth can be sterile in a purely playing a piano patch sense... but then - I'm not trying to mimic a piano on my synth - I want to twist knobs, tweak the filter, do a little pitch bend - lay into the keys harder and trigger the aftertouch. It's all in how someone approaches an instrument.
In one of the other threads someone mentioned that you don't play a piano, rhodes, and B3 the same way. Absolutely - even though they all have the same basic keys - the way you play them is different. Personally - I can't really make a B3 sing - though I've seen people just crank on them. I can play a piano or a rhodes though... I'd love a rhodes in the basement...
Anyway - yeah - this is an old thread - but I liked what everyone wrote and wanted to bring it back out front again.
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject:
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"threads never die, the just rest.."
_________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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seraph
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:45 pm Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | "threads never die, the just rest.." |
not only that, sometimes they come back
thanks jkn to bring them back to life again, they remind me when I was a young poster here a long time ago.................. _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject:
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Well.. seems like Kerry is ending the thread for the dubya.. should we give the ex-president a Casio and get him over here for some mushroom sessions? Nah.. he will probably stuff the mushrooms up his nose.. well.. anyway.. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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seraph
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:10 pm Post subject:
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dubya stands for "politician with dubious diction", right
Quote: | "It's in your best interests, by the way, that we have a literate tomorrow. You're irrelevant if people can't read. And we need to start figuring out whether they can or cannot early in a child's career." |
Quote: | "The Civil War was the best war we've ever had because when you're fighting with yourself, you're always going to win." |
Quote: | God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.
-- Reverend Dubya is confusing and spooky all at the same time, Los Angeles, California, Mar. 3, 2004 |
oh my goodness:
http://www.dubyaspeak.com/best.shtml _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:17 pm Post subject:
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Scary! Well.. he will hardly be out of a job for long. I guess North Korea will hire him as a PR agent. That would make thermo-nuclear war seem like an act of love. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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seraph
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject:
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the question we should ask him to answer as North Corean PR are:
jive wrote: | Whut is de consequences fo' de United States if No'd Ko'ea begins producin' mo'e nuclear weapons?
Whut is de consequences fo' de wo'ld?
Why be No'd Ko'ea hangin' dis now?
Whut should U.S. policy be toward No'd Ko'ea?
Whut role should da damn United States play in de wo'ld today? |
Tell me if I forgot something _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:33 pm Post subject:
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I think that covers most of the issues.. dunno .. but North Korea might be turned into a theme park by Disney. A hell of a ride?!
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject:
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Have you ever noticed dubya's pronunciation of the word: "nuclear"
he pronounces it: "nucular" _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject:
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He also has another speech impediment.. he goes "weapons of mass destruction" and "huh... me?" whenever most people would have discussed important world issues. Tourette? Drugs? Both? _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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mosc
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:59 pm Post subject:
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Now, boys, let's keep this OT.
I heard last night on TV from a former Prime Mister of Canada this. When the head of the interim Iraqi government visited Bush recently he was asked what they talked about. He said, "I explained to him that there are three different types of Muslims living in Iraq." |
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject:
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My my... so there are three kinds of muslims in Iraq.. waddya know..
Yup.. keep this OT!
Will dubya get reelected if he figures out there are muslims in Canada and then handles this in a decisive and firm manner? Canada would be a fitting name for a carpark? One would of course have to get rid of all the green stuff and the moose and the rest? _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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mosc
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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Oh, God. We need to keep Canada free. Canada is more important than most people imagine. If we could only get CBC on American cable then we'd see some improvement here. |
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paul e.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject:
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cbc..no no no
Canadian Blah/Boring Corporation
but hey, if the fantasy of canada being the liberal, happy, clean polite, semi-enlightened place some americans make it out to be makes you sleep better..be my guest hehehe
but it ain't true... _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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