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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: MAC OS Nicecasting
Subject description: Initial success
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Hi all

OK so far.
I have my studio output running into my eMAC.
The eMac is running a newly-purchased NiceCast client.

I connected to one of the ports and successfully (I believe) broadcast to it.
I also monitored the broadcast through ITunes, taking the URL from NeceCast.

A couple of questions though:
1. I saw in ShoutCast where I could set up with two ports for two differing kbps rates. However, I don't see where I can broadcast two different streams in NiceCast. Anyone know how to set this up?

2. I'd be ok streaming a higher-quality stream in mono, instead of a lower-quality stream in stereo. Of course, I wouldn't want people to listen with one speaker instead of two, but one stream through both speakers would be ok for me for this webcast. Any directions/suggestions on this? Again, I'm fine however, but thought I'd ask.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Re. 1 - maybe you can start nicecast twice with a different configuration file for each ?

Or when that is not possible maybe make a copy of the directory nicecast is in and get an independent config that way.

Re. 2 - mp3 can be mono and it will come out at two speakers then for the receiver/player. Or maybe I did not understand the question.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: MAC OS Nicecasting
Subject description: Initial success
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rbedgar wrote:

I connected to one of the ports and successfully (I believe) broadcast to it.
I also monitored the broadcast through ITunes, taking the URL from NeceCast.


Seems ok then, do you have a delay of up to several 10s of seconds on listening to iTunes ? If so you can be pretty sure it works. When you'd post the port number you are using other people could verify for you as well.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

AFAIK, Nicecast will give you one outgoing stream at the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BTW, I will adjust the bandwidrth some. I will dedicate 8 megabits for the streaming.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: Nicecasting
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1. I concur...I tried opening two instances of NiceCast in OSX, but it only wants one open at a time...also AFAIK.

2. RE: Mono: right, I realize that I can Nicecast as Mono, what I meant to ask was: If I Nicecast in mono, what should I set the bitrate to? 64 or 128?

Thanks for feedback folks.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I suggest if you only broadcast on one stream, use 64 kbs stereo with sample rate at 22050. Please use the lower port number if I gave you two. I don't know how many people are going to want to listen at 24 kbs anyhow. We'll learn in the next 24 hours or so. Maybe in the future it would be better to use 128 and 64 kbs. ???? We'll see
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Nicecasting continued...
Subject description: Test questions
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As I noted, I was apparently successful Nicecasting. At least it told me it was broadcasting, which was better than I got yesterday.

Just so I understand (and heh I don't quite yet...) if I Nicecast to one of the ports that Howard gave me, and it connects and says it's broadcasting, is that enough proof that it's working? You mentioned a 10 ms or so delay...or would it be clearer to point another computer here on my home network to that address, and see if it is streaming? Would it stream before my designated time?

Trying to track down a 60-cycle hum...or modify it into a tamboura...

Howard wrote:
I suggest if you only broadcast on one stream, use 64 kbs stereo with sample rate at 22050. Please use the lower port number if I gave you two.

RE: Ok, will do. That's what I'll test out.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Nicecasting continued...
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rbedgar wrote:

Just so I understand (and heh I don't quite yet...) if I Nicecast to one of the ports that Howard gave me, and it connects and says it's broadcasting, is that enough proof that it's working? You mentioned a 10 ms or so delay...or would it be clearer to point another computer here on my home network to that address, and see if it is streaming? Would it stream before my designated time?


Ehm not mili seconds but some tens of seconds. And I meant the delay between your local sound and the sound you get back when tuning into the stream.

You can tune into the stream by feeding http://radio.electro-music.com:<portnr> into an audio player as the URL to be played :: <portnr> is the same port that you use to stream out.

When NiceCast says it is connected that's strong evidence it's workng OK, but by plugging the URL I gave above into a player you could get a stronger verification.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Connection Verified
Subject description: Yay
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Great. Nicecast on my Mac, used Winamp on my Windows machine to verify the webcast. It works. Stereo, 64kbps. Now I have to get the levels right. Will work on that now.

Thanks for all your help!
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