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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Variation sequencing ? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would like to chain variation with a sequencer or LFO. Do you know if it's possible ?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes that is possible, like in attached patch (load into slot A).

CC70 controls the variation.


var-seq.pch2
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variation sequencing

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 Filename:  var-seq.pch2
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks !

The G2 is amazing...

Edit : Wow ! Changing value during Var Seq make crazy sequences, especialy if you change LFO value. Really great.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yup. it is pretty fun have you played around with RedMonday_DZ.prf2 or BCHydro_DZ.prf2?

I like to do this with my hands hitting the buttons as I like to improvise often, (too bad there is no sequencer combined with am 8 switch out there to make variation adjustments in realtime just a little bit quicker).

Once you get good at it, it is a lot of fun to tweak this way.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dasz wrote:
I like to do this with my hands hitting the buttons as I like to improvise often,


Even from within the editor this is fun (using the number keys).

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, totally!!!

but not the same as with the panel. I like the spacing and feel of the g2 panel variation buttons, also they light up so you always look at the keys and see the selected variation to boot.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dasz wrote:
but not the same as with the panel.


Sure, but considering the price difference Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I know.

I have set up my pc1600 as a variation switcher (8 buttons which send different cc70 x 2) in addition to the panel (for switching variations on multiple slots at once).

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Any ideas how I can trigger Var. 2 by an event in Var. 1, then trigger Var. 3 by an event in Var. 2? Both the machine and I are going nuts trying to solve this Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sebber wrote:
Both the machine and I are going nuts trying to solve this Confused


Laughing I'll have a try this evening when noone else was sooner. An event is a logic signal going from false to true? Are the events from different modules in the different variations, or do they come from one module?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Jan, I thought of a sequencer in Var.1 whose link output links to the same sequencer in Var. 2, then 3... Sort of like 8 sequencers in a row but each in a different Variation.

Everything I tried goes berserk because it changes the CC70 output immediately. I knew I'd run into trouble because I remembered this post:
http://mail.electro-music.com/pipermail/nord-modular/2004-December/001382.html Laughing

The innovative concept of the G2 shows new ways in sound synthesis: AmplitudeModulation, FrequencyModulation, VariationModulation Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah well, Rob obviously was in a bad mood at the time Very Happy I would like to have a button though to block and unblock variation changes.

Do you have an example patch Sebastian? It's not directly clear to me what you mean, an illustration might be helpful.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sebber wrote:
Jan, I thought of a sequencer in Var.1 whose link output links to the same sequencer in Var. 2, then 3... Sort of like 8 sequencers in a row but each in a different Variation.

Everything I tried goes berserk because it changes the CC70 output immediately. I knew I'd run into trouble because I remembered this post:
http://mail.electro-music.com/pipermail/nord-modular/2004-December/001382.html Laughing


Sebber, I use s/h modules driven by a clock so variation changes occur at well defined (rhythmically) times. See BCHydro_DZ or RedMonday_DZ in the factory soundset. If you turn the variation seq switch off (slot A, page A-1, knob 1), then you can try this out with the other 3 knobs (which change the variations in slots B,C,D respectively), but only on the downbeat.

I'm not sure what you mean by the sequencer control in the other slots as you describe, can you elaborate?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is this a bit like what you meant Sebastian ?

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var-seq.prf2
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ja(aaan), that's it. Exactly. And I wouldn't have come to it by myself like using the S-flipflop. I just replaced it with the pulse module like I had it and mayhem again. Is the S-flipflops Q-output impuls simply much shorter than the shortest pulse outputs pulse Question

Dasz, I always like to listen to Monday and Hydro, they are great. What I needed though is not a preprogrammed pattern but a Variation change trigger from "within" a variation.

Thanks a lot both of you!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sebber wrote:
Is the S-flipflops Q-output impuls simply much shorter than the shortest pulse outputs pulse Question


It gets reset at the moment the new variation starts (see wire on reset input), I needed that to make it work.

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