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Kick Drum synthesis
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nbozic



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Kick Drum synthesis
Subject description: Nice-sounding trance kick drum
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Hi,

What's the best way to synthesize a kick drum from scratch? (without using the drum module in G2)
I created one (attached) but it sounds pretty lame and shallow... as if there's no substance to it. It's probably because I'm only using one sine wave, but that's what is advised in the book I'm reading right now. (One sine wave oscillator for the main sound and another oscillator for the transient/initial hit)

I'm trying to create one of those hard and rich-sounding Trance kick drums... but can't get it to work... scratch

I would appreciate any pointers.


kick1.pch2
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Current kick drum...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Unless you want to make a realistic kick sound, one sine should be plenty.
Use an oscillator with a sync in or the drift in phase of the oscillator can muddy the attack. The saturator and EQ help as in the example. You can experiment with the shape LFO as an oscillator as well, the variable starting phase can give a nice click for free.


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a simple kick

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Your patch is very flexible and it has a pretty decent sound.
It also allows me to easily change the feel of the kick and make it suitable for different electronic music genres by tweaking the saturation module.
I guess the saturation module is the key here to give it that "heaviness."
I also tried adding the Clip module and the result was a Rave-like kick sound.

Thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello!

Inspired me to try this, using an (off-gate stopped) SHPLFOA
as a combined wave shaper and amplitude envelope,
by phase and shape modulations.

Can give a kind of "bassline" at counterbeat for free... and wide
range of distorted- or filtered-like sounds.
On the other hand, it´s hard to fine-tune the controls if youre
looking for some special sound.

Found the variations via Patch Mutator, as usual.

Hopefully not confusing you too much...

Marcus


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Flexible Drumkick & "Bassline" using SHPLFOA (tricky).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice, the beat kinda reminds me of German techno when I still lived in Germany.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Clever patch, marcus! it's refreshing, everybody does things differently!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

nbozic, you have patched the control cables to the 100% input on the osc modules. If you patch them to the adjustable inputs, you can... er... adjust the level that you want. Filters and shaping modules can help to... er.. shape the sound.

Here are a few I made earlier:

http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-7037.html

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi nbozic!

This is how I usually do my kicks, don't know if this qualifies as a "Trance kick drum"
(5 variations programmed)


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Lo-Fi Kick

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the posts.
It looks like I have some excellent examples to work with and I might come up with my own unique patch quite soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

By the way...
It's intriguing that there are so many different ways to create such a simple thing as a kick drum. Then there are tons of ways to tweak the settings of the patch... It's pretty insane (in a good way) Shocked
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