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Is there a factory reset for the NM1?
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:08 am    Post subject: Is there a factory reset for the NM1? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello,
its too long ago since i used the NM1 regulary and i there is this berlin party alzheimer...

I have problems with my machine .

sometimes it dont sees the pazches and calls all location unused.

sometimes it gives an error message when trying to load a patch.

switching the machin on and off clears that situation.

Question:

Is there a factory reset command?

I remember that reformating of the memory can help...
whats the best way to do that?

I recently installed the dsp expansion...
Can the problems be related to that?
Is it maybe necessary to reformat the memory or do some kind of reset after the instalation?

thanks for any info,
Sven
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sounds like you've got gaps in patch banks, like

1 - patch1
2 - unused
3 - patch2

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
Sounds like you've got gaps in patch banks, like

1 - patch1
2 - unused
3 - patch2


no , actually not..but thanx for reminding me that this was causing problems...

I also just found another problem with a different frequ response on left and right channel... funny enough its happening on booth output pairs...
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ups...actually you was wright...but it was rather like that

1 - patch1
2-300 - unused
301 - patch2

one accidently wrong stored patch... sometimes the patchbrowseer comes in handy Wink


thnx
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very Happy

Meanwhile I went through all the list mail (including Wizoo and code 404 etc.) searching for keywords "factory" and "reset" .. nothing showed up (but I did see some mail about your stolen NM Classic, the one with the mini jacks).

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

closest thing you can have to a factory reset is a OS re-install. That's the only way if -for example-one of your auto-loading patches becomes corrupted.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Didn't a downgrade erase all patches even ?

There is some secret key combination, I remember that ... but I can't find it anymore.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

many synths have secret key combinations for sservice reasons..
but maybe clavia dont needs that because the editor ports?
however... filling the gaps between the accidantly stored patches with empty patches seemed to solve the situation...at least i didnt had any new issues...

I bought a new NM1 a year ago (the stolen one of cause never returned)...but i just started now to use it again...
i forgot quite a lot ... have to study my old patches to learn the tricks again...
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I never owned the G1, I am curious about the spectral oscillator though. Any chance of a simple demo sample to show how it is different?
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: G1 SpectralOsc wave file example. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here you go Ian.

Stereo wave file example of the G1 Nord Modular SpectralOsc module with the course frequency set to 82.41 Hz (E2). The wave file starts with Spectral shape setting at zero and then the shape is gradually increased to maximum. The left channel has the oscillator Odd Partials button switched on, the right channel has the All Partials selected.


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Stereo wave file example of the G1 Nord Modular SpectralOsc module with the course frequency set to 82.41 Hz (E2). The wave file starts with Spectral shape setting at zero and then the shape is gradually increased to maximum. The left channel has the osci

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

g2ian wrote:
I never owned the G1, I am curious about the spectral oscillator though. Any chance of a simple demo sample to show how it is different?


you probably noticed how much louder the osc gets during the shape change of the waveform...
It als distorts different on the peak position..
i once tried to emulate it..but it wasnt correct and expensiv... the shape mod input has a different characterisics aswell..
so a simple envelope on a spectral oscilator mod input creates a very snappy sound compared to having the same on the g2..even with extra amplitude modulation...
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

3phase wrote:
you probably noticed how much louder the osc gets during the shape change of the waveform...


Yes the G2 version seems to have a flatter level, the sine section is at least 10dB up on the G1.
As far as the basic buzzy tone goes, I don't think I can tell the difference.
But my ears are not very good.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
Didn't a downgrade erase all patches even ?


Probably, that would make sense bacause chances are they wouldn't work anyway. I thought a re-install also erased all patches. There are occasions where you have to erase all patches without it ever booting in normal; mode I'm not sure how you would do that otherwise.

I never downgraded the OS, I was tempted a few times but the module limit of the older version always kept me from actually doing it.

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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

g2ian wrote:
But my ears are not very good.

Embarassed


Smile i dont belive that !

But the difference in the distortion is indeed minimal..the different response to shape modulation and the levelrise do the bigger part...

also the in general smoother sound of the G2 weekens the buzzy plastic reality experiance the spectral oscilator on the Nm1 can give
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