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Creating sounds by random
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Creating sounds by random Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,

For everybody interested, on http://synth.lunelios.com is the software of a free NordLead3 patch randomizer download able. Such a tool is good for many hours of experimenting joy. Besides this using it is a good way to understand your synth, specially how it behaves and what causes its sound.

The NordLead3, Clavia states it's the best they ever made, is in a way special: it is able to create the sounds of the early electronic studio's. My wife always says she can hear the vacuum tubes Smile

After randomizing the parameters and sending these to the synth, mostly a complete unusable sound, if any, will be under the keyboard. A lot of tweaking has to be done to obtain something which has any musical meaning.

First one has to check the filter(s), who can be closed to the frequencies the synth produces at that moment. Also the 'amount' parameters of the LFO section has to be turned down. Oscillator Modulation can be a 'too much' parameter. After a while tweaking the other knobs and specially fine tuning them, a musical sound coulds be the result...

Attached are some 'cleaned' random patches and how they sound.

Wout


001 RND.syx
 Description:
Sysex file, to be opened in the Nord Sound Manager and doenloaded to the synth

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 Filename:  001 RND.syx
 Filesize:  261 Bytes
 Downloaded:  88 Time(s)


RND_001.mp3
 Description:
The sound

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 Filename:  RND_001.mp3
 Filesize:  141.55 KB
 Downloaded:  305 Time(s)


002 RND.syx
 Description:
Sysex file

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 Filename:  002 RND.syx
 Filesize:  261 Bytes
 Downloaded:  88 Time(s)


RND_002.mp3
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 Filename:  RND_002.mp3
 Filesize:  125.63 KB
 Downloaded:  325 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll add some more...

Wout


004 RND.syx
 Description:
Sysex

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 Filename:  004 RND.syx
 Filesize:  261 Bytes
 Downloaded:  88 Time(s)


RND_004.mp3
 Description:
Sound

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 Filename:  RND_004.mp3
 Filesize:  343.39 KB
 Downloaded:  315 Time(s)


005 RND.syx
 Description:
Sysex

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 Filename:  005 RND.syx
 Filesize:  261 Bytes
 Downloaded:  89 Time(s)


RND_005.mp3
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Sound

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 Filename:  RND_005.mp3
 Filesize:  88.29 KB
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And the last one of this mini serie.

Wout


007 RND.syx
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Sysex

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 Filename:  007 RND.syx
 Filesize:  261 Bytes
 Downloaded:  89 Time(s)


RND_007.mp3
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Sound

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 Filename:  RND_007.mp3
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

7 is cool Exclamation
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The randomizer also creates Morphes. Normally it's the best to disable these functions, but leaving it enabled can really produce some pure random sounds, controllable by the keyboard.

It's very interesting to explore the patches how they react to the keyboard, velocity, after touch and modulation wheel. To use these patches in music one has to learn how to play them. Making clusters, playing fast notes and the above mentioned controllers open up the possibilities.

A strange thing is happening...
After a while some patches don't stop anymore. They are just noodling around. No parameter effects them anymore, only the synths main volume can silent these. At the other hand: they are still evolving. (BTW even the 'panic' button doesn't work)

I produced a 6:30 during improvisation using three patches in the NordLead3. All parameters are morphed at random. In two of the three patches after touch is controlling the oscillator pitch, in my opinion a rather dull effect, but I didn't want to change it. The 'hi-onk' like sounds are the result of a heavy release velocity, which the NordLead3 doesn't have, I thought... Well, could be the pitch! At about 3:10 a nasty, loud sound is triggered, which couldn't be masked by other actions. After a lot playing of the heavy, hard sound, it suddenly disappears.

In the beginning and also in other parts one can hear the 'tube' like sound of the NordLead3. Also no effects are used, just the synth.

And yes, this is music too Smile


06-09-07-A.syx
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Sysex

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 Filename:  06-09-07-A.syx
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06-09-07-B.syx
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Sysex

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06-09-07-C.syx
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Random_&_Improvisation_09-11-07.mp3
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The improvisation

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Time for the new smiley

wow! , wow! en nog eens


goed zo !

(I was working on a noise thingie on the G2 and thought it still was running somehow Laughing )

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
(I was working on a noise thingie on the G2 and thought it still was running somehow Laughing )
Yes... Even the NordLead3 can Noodle!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think it's a really nice piece Wout !

I'd have preferred a little bit less dynamics in volume for a noodle, but I really like it.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, but in fact it isn't a noodle, although the synth starts to noodle. I don't know why and to tell the truth, I don't care. The NordLead3 just does it

About the last sample of the 'cleaned' patches, I got the same sound by random using the NordLead2. Sysex and sound in the attachments. In this case I used a special patch in the G2X to clean the randomness using the Mutator, which gives one the possibility to make choises in a simple way.

Wout


2278Mutator02.syx
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Sysex NordLead2(X)

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 Filename:  2278Mutator02.syx
 Filesize:  139 Bytes
 Downloaded:  85 Time(s)


2278Mutator02-a.mp3
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Sound

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 Filename:  2278Mutator02-a.mp3
 Filesize:  84.21 KB
 Downloaded:  300 Time(s)


2278Mutator02-b.mp3
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Sound

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
I'd have preferred a little bit less dynamics in volume for a noodle, but I really like it.
Would you like a wav file?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
Would you like a wav file?


Yes, please Very Happy

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