electro-music.com   Dedicated to experimental electro-acoustic
and electronic music
 
    Front Page  |  Radio
 |  Media  |  Forum  |  Wiki  |  Links
Forum with support of Syndicator RSS
 FAQFAQ   CalendarCalendar   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   LinksLinks
 RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in  Chat RoomChat Room 
 Forum index » DIY Hardware and Software
555 timer Output
Post new topic   Reply to topic Moderators: jksuperstar, Scott Stites, Uncle Krunkus
Page 1 of 1 [5 Posts]
View unread posts
View new posts in the last week
Mark the topic unread :: View previous topic :: View next topic
Author Message
pud3000



Joined: Aug 12, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Berlin, Germany

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: 555 timer Output Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi there,

i'm still building a 8 step sequencer out of a 555 Timer going into a 4017 binary counter going into a 4046 VCO. I wired the timer like this:

http://bp3.blogger.com/_BQac7gcHPK0/RlAC1GKBF2I/AAAAAAAAAY0/9n76jToy920/s1600-h/LED+Chaser+by+IC+4017+%2B+IC+555.jpg

(IC2 is the Timer)

So does anyone know where i can get information how much output (In Volt) the timer gives with this setup because my problem is the timer signal is to hot so the VCO is pitching up a little bit when the timer is giving its signal. So the sound is like a police-sirene in each step but my aim is to have nearly clear straight pitched tone. So does anyone know how to calm the timer signal down a little bit? (Im running allthe chips with a single 9V BLock)

thanks everyone, Tino.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Uncle Krunkus
Moderator


Joined: Jul 11, 2005
Posts: 4761
Location: Sydney, Australia
Audio files: 52
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The 555 is probably loading the supply a bit, which will make the VCO go up and down, like it's being starved.
Things I would try (in this order) : -
* The CMOS version of the 555 (LM7555) draws a lot less power.
* Increase the bypass cap across the battery, from 10uF to say 100uF 25V. Will help it hold up when the discharged timing cap goes across the supply.
* Smaller bypass caps across each chip's supply pins (as close as possible to the chip) say 100nF each. These should be standard practice on any circuit which uses digital signals for audio IMHO.

_________________
What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
pud3000



Joined: Aug 12, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Berlin, Germany

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks very much, i'll definetly try that. I'm powering the Circuit with one single 9V Battery. So when i use the cmos version of the 555 do i have to change the power (9v) going to the timer or can i leave it with 9v and just the output of the cmos timer will be calmed down just by the characteristics of the cmos version....??
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JovianPyx



Joined: Nov 20, 2007
Posts: 1988
Location: West Red Spot, Jupiter
Audio files: 224

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For most circuits, a CMOS 7555 will work as a "drop in" replacement, but it will us far less current. 9 volts is fine for it. The spec for it is actually 2 volts to 18 volts. I think you're safe in just replacing the 555 with a 7555.
_________________
FPGA, dsPIC and Fatman Synth Stuff

Time flies like a banana.
Fruit flies when you're having fun.
BTW, Do these genes make my ass look fat?
corruptio optimi pessima
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Uncle Krunkus
Moderator


Joined: Jul 11, 2005
Posts: 4761
Location: Sydney, Australia
Audio files: 52
G2 patch files: 1

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

pud3000 wrote:
Thanks very much, i'll definetly try that. I'm powering the Circuit with one single 9V Battery. So when i use the cmos version of the 555 do i have to change the power (9v) going to the timer or can i leave it with 9v and just the output of the cmos timer will be calmed down just by the characteristics of the cmos version....??


A quick clarification of the difference between Voltage and Power.
Power is measured in Watts and is the Voltage * the Current.
If the Current goes up (which is dependant on the Resistance) the Power will go up too. Even though the Voltage may remain unchanged.
So a circuit, (or chip, or even an individual component, like a resistor) can have a specific Voltage across it's supply input, and yet the Current it draws, and therefore the Power it uses, can be different. Either from one chip to the next, or from one moment to the next.
The Voltage across a chip will tend to stay the same, whereas the Current being drawn will tend to vary. Especially in the case of a 555 timer, where the whole timer circuit draws more Current while charging the cap.

V=I*R ---------- (V)oltage = (I)Current * (R)esistance
W=V*I --------- (W)Power = (V)oltage * (I)Current

_________________
What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic Moderators: jksuperstar, Scott Stites, Uncle Krunkus
Page 1 of 1 [5 Posts]
View unread posts
View new posts in the last week
Mark the topic unread :: View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » DIY Hardware and Software
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Forum with support of Syndicator RSS
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Copyright © 2003 through 2009 by electro-music.com - Conditions Of Use