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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:04 am Post subject:
my wife is pregnant....safety tips?? |
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hey everybody. those of you who know me, know that the room i do all my electronics work in is also the bedroom i share with my wife. I store many many savaged circuit boards, do soldering, and general electronics work in here.
my question is this: should i stop soldering in this room for the next nine months? we live in a small apartment and if i have to stop in the bedroom, well then i guess i will be doing nothing but breadboards....
anyone have any advice or anyone been through a similiar situation?
will non-lead solder be safe enough...i guess ill have to switch back to that...
thanks _________________ -------------------------------------------- check out various dan music at: http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
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goldenechos
Joined: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Marshall, NC
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:29 am Post subject:
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Dan, did you ever live in Chicago? I recognize your name, and listening to the songs on your myspace page, I'd swear I recognize your muusical voice.
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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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goldenechos
Joined: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Marshall, NC
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:35 am Post subject:
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Btw, if you switch to lead-free solder you will need to switch all of you components and PCB to lead free as well.
Leaded on lead free is fine.
Lead free on leaded, fails all the time.
You might look into getting yourself a solder fume extractor, and situating your station infront of a window. Build something to create an exit in the window (without having the window open), direct the fumes, using a small duct work, to this exit. Not a much work as it sounds like.
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goldenechos
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:38 am Post subject:
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Hell yeah, our bands played together. I was in we Ragazzi.
Makita Soma and we Ragazzi played at the Lounge Ax together. An awesome show... a valentines gig "the Kissing Festival."
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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:41 am Post subject:
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wow...tony
thats a blast from the past...i dont remember you being into synths at the time (but I do remember you being really into analog recording...
small world....
i am an audio engineer/consultant/prodcuer/mixer/sound designer in NYC now. I still talk to some of the guys occasionally but they are all still in chicago. sadly i havent been in a band proper in 5 or 6 yrs as nyc is so expensive and i am an old married man now
rock life got too hectic and it never paid enough to really survive (but i sure tried for years!) what are you up to nowadays?? _________________ -------------------------------------------- check out various dan music at: http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
http://www.myspace.com/snazelle
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hodad
Joined: Jul 31, 2007 Posts: 41 Location: atlanta
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:00 am Post subject:
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As to the solder & pregnant wife: as someone else recently noted around here, solder fumes do not contain lead. Of course, there's other stuff in there that your wife probably shouldn't be breathing, so don't solder around her, or solder only in a well-ventilated area. Or both.
And be extremely diligent about cleaning up after yourself. Wash your hands thoroughly when you're done working.
Be sensible, very cautious, & just a little bit paranoid.
That's my advice anyway. |
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mandrigora
Joined: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 51 Location: maryland
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:41 am Post subject:
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Congrats by the way... My 3rd child (a boy) was born Friday, and is fit as a fiddle. Living in NYC, I'd be more concerned about the outside air than the inside!  |
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v-un-v
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Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 8932 Location: Birmingham, England, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:46 am Post subject:
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loss1234 wrote: | YEAH I LIVED IN CHICAGO FOR YEARS!!. |
You guys must know Drag City records then?
I've had an LP out on Drag City  _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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xpmtl

Joined: Aug 10, 2007 Posts: 162 Location: Brussels, Belgium
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:55 am Post subject:
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I live in Belgium, but know Drag City catalog quite a bit.
What was the name of the LP? Must have it in the shelf  _________________ http://sdiy.xpmtl.net |
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v-un-v
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StephenGiles
Joined: Apr 17, 2006 Posts: 507 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:36 am Post subject:
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I can't see that solder fumes are any worse than car/bus fumes in the street! |
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v-un-v
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject:
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StephenGiles wrote: | I can't see that solder fumes are any worse than car/bus fumes in the street! |
That's an interesting point. there was a time when there was lead in solder, I think most has now been taken out- I know that you can still get lead solder for plumbing. Lead solder tends to flow better on pipes. I don't think there's much difference on a PCB. However, I do think (or remember anyway- from my electronics training) that solder fumes are pretty toxic, more toxic than car fumes- because a car is outside and so there is a larger ratio of fresh air. Of course if you run a car engine within a closed space, it will harm you, if not kill you, if you don't ventilate the room properly.
fwiw, Solder fumes smell nicer than car fumes!  _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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v-un-v
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject:
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Well then you're gonna die then aren't you?
I'm sure you're be alright. My sister smoked all the way through her pregnancy. Both me and my wife live right next to a very busy road- both our kids are super-bright. I think a lot of superstitious bollocks about health is prevalent these days also. Go solder away mate- the only bad thing that'll probably happen is that your kids will love you for it  _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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EdisonRex
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Joined: Mar 07, 2007 Posts: 4579 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject:
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yeah, I think the motherhood nazis are at work, making motherhood more miserable than it already is.
Solder is not going to contaminate your unborn child, if you keep the lead out of things that could be ingested. You are in much worse trouble when the kid is born, and at the most risk from 6mos to 3 years. Then, you might as well put the iron away, because that's the main risk (burns). _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
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goldenechos
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject:
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I still think it is easy enough to set-up an exhaust system at your solder station. Pull a fan out of an old computer (pleny of those on the curbs of Manhattan).
No reason to breath solder fumes so directly. Everybody should have a fan and a wiondow at least.
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computer at sea
Joined: Aug 16, 2007 Posts: 9 Location: east coast US
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject:
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goldenechos wrote: | Hell yeah, our bands played together. I was in we Ragazzi.
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One of my bands opened for you guys in Portland, Maine when you played at Space. I think the band I was in then was probably The Enchantments. |
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frijitz
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject:
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v-un-v wrote: | That's an interesting point. there was a time when there was lead in solder, I think most has now been taken out- I know that you can still get lead solder for plumbing. Lead solder tends to flow better on pipes. |
Funny -- just the opposite in the US. Unleaded solder is required for plumbing to keep it out of the drinking water. It's still prevelant for electronic solder. Hmmm...
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mandrigora
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject:
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I still love the title of this thread:
"My wife is pregnant....safety tips??"
Too late now!! Welcome to fatherhood
-someone who has not figured out safety tips and has brooded thrice |
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Danno Gee Ray
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject:
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From experience with the "pregnant wife", "safety tips"...
If she seems annoyed with you soldering in her kitchen when she gets in a mood, for your own safety...put it away.
The importance of your hobby is inversely proportional to her needs for what at the time may seem an odd, but absolutely required food combination.
Oh, and whatever you do, DO NOT call one of your new projects your "baby". It will find bathwater to go out with.
Have fun with this new aspect of your life, It is a time full of wonder. |
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mandrigora
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject:
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It's an equal balance of stealing your 5 year old's toys to disassemble and bend and keeping them at bay when they want to help solder. Honestly, it's easier when they're poking around inside mommy...And best when you can post pics of your greatest creation (the child) presenting the most tedious creation (the modular).  |
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loss1234

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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject:
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thanks everybody for the thoughts
ive already got a 4yr old step son and hes been lots of fun and does lots of circuit bending with me...and yes we do take apart his toys
anyway,,,tony, you mentioned making an exhaust system out of an old computer...how do you go about doing this???
its odd...in america, lead free solder is So much MORE EXPENSIVE
(like 5 bucks for a tiny little tube of wire as opposed to three bucks for a giant reel of solder)
AMERICANS- where do you get your lead free cheaply (if you use lead free??) _________________ -------------------------------------------- check out various dan music at: http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
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mandrigora
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject:
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Honestly, I've never bought solder outside of the RatShack and have never bothered to see if it's lead-free or not. For some reason I was always more concerned if it was rosin-core or not... though I can't remember why...Must be the lead fumes rotting my medulla oblongata. Maybe I'll go ask one of my mutant kids... |
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theMinister
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject:
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getlofi.com did this fume extractor a while back. |
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