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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Boards arrived here today. Loads of thanks, Josh, I'm really looking forward to getting these built up.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Boards arrived today, thanks again.

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

so i have quite a few PCBs leftover- if anybody wants any, PM me please, i am open to trades for parts or other PCBs even...

if you still haven't sent payment, but are planning to, email me at the yahoo email address please so i can still count your boards as sold-

thanks alot


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The arived here!
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

and boards in the most remote city in the world!
Thanks Josh!
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I got mine! Still working on quad panel design. I have been thinking about trying to match the Buchla panel as much as possible. Is anyone else going down that road?
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Budgrubber wrote:
I got mine! Still working on quad panel design. I have been thinking about trying to match the Buchla panel as much as possible. Is anyone else going down that road?


Yep. That's what I'm doing. I'll have my Quad Function Gen, my Quad Dynamics manager, Control Processor, etc. Mostly designs I've found here, and used to reproduce Buchla stuff.

I'm using 4-unit height panels also, like the buchla.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll also likely just mimic the Buchla aesthetic and do a separate CV management module.

And I had an idea- Couldn't these boards be set up to be switchable one-shot or cyclic Korg MS20-style LFOs with End Outs and Quadrature? You'd have to use a dual pot controlling contrary motion CV into the A and R control ins to cause it to sweep between down saw, triangle, and up saw. And a CV to do so as well. And global CV for rate...

Just add another CV summer, CV in, and a pot along with a comparator and pop, you get PWM as well.

I can't tell you the fun of dynamically modulating the saw/tri LFO in the Andromeda. It makes filters dance. Always wanted the Korg LFO to be CV'd!
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Peake wrote:
And I had an idea- Couldn't these boards be set up to be switchable one-shot or cyclic Korg MS20-style LFOs with End Outs and Quadrature? You'd have to use a dual pot controlling contrary motion CV into the A and R control ins to cause it to sweep between down saw, triangle, and up saw. And a CV to do so as well. And global CV for rate...

I'd expect it to be hard to get the frequency stay the same when changing the slopes in this module - this might be an issue or not. IIRC, the Korg pot (which keeps the frequency remarkably well) is part of the LFO core and not trivial to CV-ize.

Peake wrote:
I can't tell you the fun of dynamically modulating the saw/tri LFO in the Andromeda. It makes filters dance. Always wanted the Korg LFO to be CV'd!

I believe you! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

/mr wrote:
the Korg pot (which keeps the frequency remarkably well) is part of the LFO core and not trivial to CV-ize.


Not trivializing, just wondering ... could a dual vactrol be used where the 2nd part linearizes the 1st part?

With some opamp trickery I mean. In a way similar to how expo converters can use a non ideal transistor compensated by another non ideal transistor and some opamp trickery.

Maybe a vactrol is less ideal than a transistor? Maybe the two halves of a dual are not very equal?

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
Maybe a vactrol is less ideal than a transistor? Maybe the two halves of a dual are not very equal?

There you have the two truths of today, I'm afraid. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ericcoleridge wrote:
Budgrubber wrote:
I got mine! Still working on quad panel design. I have been thinking about trying to match the Buchla panel as much as possible. Is anyone else going down that road?


Yep. That's what I'm doing. I'll have my Quad Function Gen, my Quad Dynamics manager, Control Processor, etc. Mostly designs I've found here, and used to reproduce Buchla stuff.

I'm using 4-unit height panels also, like the buchla.


Yes, me too Smile

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

/mr wrote:
There you have the two truths of today, I'm afraid. Smile


Ah well, it was a nice thought Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

As was my "Korg LFO" thought. It occured to me afterward as well, that frequency would be tough to tame when shifting the times.

Oh well, we'll just have to restrict ourselves to enyoying one of the best envelopes ever (if not THE best envelope ever, aside from the Wiard).
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i don't believe it would be too difficult to set the FG up like this and maintain relatively constant frequency. an addition of 2 xtra op-amps per FG?

if you match the resistors at the CV inputs, the slopes should respond to CV very nearly symmetrically [three adverbs in a row?? i have had alot of coffee]. the greatest variation in tolerance in this area would of course be in the control pots..

so it would involve subtracting from one input while adding to another, and finding a balance in between. then, you can add an 'overall' input/control to get frequency control. it would work much better if the control inputs were already buffered with an opamp, but i still think it would work ok with minimal interaction between the 2 controls/sources, so long as the output impedance of your control sources were low enough, i.e. if these modifications were a permanent fixture of the module, as opposed to using outside sources with series resistors as large as 1K.

anyways just thinking. it would need to be tested.

i added an overall control to my new module [i may have said that already Rolling Eyes ] which by the way is 4U high as well!

i wonder who's gonna be the first to get one up and running???

josh
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not me. Parts are in the mail.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shopping for parts sometimes confuses me: Can MOS 4016 and MOS 4001 chips substitute for CD4016B and CD4001B? And what does mean "use buffered" - stuffing them on the board is not good enough? Sorry, for my newbie querries.

And, yes, the boards look great!
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi

Buffered is just a type of cmos chip.
You want to avoid the early A series, but they were phased out a long time ago.
The 'B' stands for buffered.
UB = unbuffered

UB were designed for use in analogue applications - less propagation delay.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks! Those MOS chips make me insecure each time I've to pick one.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Got my boards. Thanks a bunch!
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cool good to hear!

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Budgrubber wrote:
I got mine! Still working on quad panel design. I have been thinking about trying to match the Buchla panel as much as possible. Is anyone else going down that road?


I'll most likely be making something that doesn't exactly mimic the buchla panel, but has the same general layout. Planning on building a frac module, probably 1 1/2 widths (similar size to Wiard JAG). It's probably going to be a few weeks, I have a CGS sequencer I need to finish up first.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Norman Phay wrote:
Budgrubber wrote:
I got mine! Still working on quad panel design. I have been thinking about trying to match the Buchla panel as much as possible. Is anyone else going down that road?


I'll most likely be making something that doesn't exactly mimic the buchla panel, but has the same general layout. Planning on building a frac module, probably 1 1/2 widths (similar size to Wiard JAG). It's probably going to be a few weeks, I have a CGS sequencer I need to finish up first.


I have one of those in the works too. My Klee and 2 SN voices are currently on the bench though.

I have been considering building a completely different system for all of the "Buchla-esque" modules that have in the works: the CGS programmer, Woggle Bug, Mark Verbos' VCOs and LP Gates, instead of plugging them all into my already very Moog-ish system (mostly dotcom and MFOS). Having never used one though I'm not really sure which modules would be necessary. The terminology is so different. What would be the equivalent to a Buchla VCA?
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Budgrubber wrote:

I have been considering building a completely different system for all of the "Buchla-esque" modules that have in the works: the CGS programmer, Woggle Bug, Mark Verbos' VCOs and LP Gates,


have you already made the Verbos VCO?
I have been thinking about trying it, possibly with a CGS or Serge Waveshaper. This would get pretty close to the Buchla Complex Waveform Generator.

Budgrubber wrote:
Having never used one though I'm not really sure which modules would be necessary. The terminology is so different. What would be the equivalent to a Buchla VCA?


I think that the only Buchla "VCA" is the Low Pass Gate.

Some other "buchla"-like designs I'm using are the Verbos Dual Band Pass, and the Fonik layouts for Low Pass Gate and Control Processor. The control processor is very cool and useful; I've build six that I'm going to incorporate into one module, together with two mixers.

These add up to a pretty good chunk of the Buchla 100-200 Series Modulars:

Complex waveform Gen (LFO+VCO+waveshapers)
Source of Uncertainty (Wogglebug)
Low Pass Gates
Dual Band Pass
Quad Function Gen
Control Processors
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Got my board mate, disregard my PM.
Thanks!

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