Satan's Fate

Inventor

Here is my second attempt at producing a song with lyrics. Thanks to kind words about my first song, I'm posting this one as well. The lyrics have the same retrograde overlap technique and I put forward voice on the right and reverse (demonic) voice on the left, so it's good to listen with headphones. The song is biblically accurate as far as I know.

http://www.freedomodds.com/music/songs/Satans_Fate2.mp3

I look forward to your comments. Oh, and here are the lyrics:

Satan's Fate
Copyright 2008 Les Hall

When God created man
He set in place a plan
That one day lowly man
Would rule over the land
And so even the mighty Angels
Would be under man's command

Lucifer the messenger
Knew the words of God Himself
With pride and lust for power
He could not understand
Instead of following God's will
He set forth to take the throne

One third of heaven's host
Arose in furious rebellion
They stood strong behind Lucifer
Who led the war against God
The bible does not tell
Who fought, who killed, who fell
But the battle of the heavens
Was won by God almighty

And Lucifer's fate was sealed
Along with all his minions
They were cast out of the Heavens
And banished into Hell

Lucifer took a new name
Satan he called himself
He licked his wounds
And made a plan
To bring harm to God's creation
And wreak havoc upon man

Now this is why we have disease
Hatred, war, and pain
Why animals feed upon one another
And why Buddha said life is suffering
It's the evil work of Satan
Who's brilliant mind has twisted horribly
A beast with horns and skin of red
Or a lady pure and chaste instead
Lucifer now Satan takes many forms
To tempt the heart of man from God

And though he rules in Hell
Commanding demonic forces
All of his evil ways
Shall end one day in pain
For the fate of Satan gone awry
Is to be cast into the lake of fire

HIs blood will boil
His skin will char
His bones will thrash about
And he'll die in horrible agony

Cast into the lake of fire
Cast into the lake of fire
Cast into the lake of fire

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject:

No, sorry, now it's all way too much God stuff for me.
Interesting sequence though.

Inventor · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject:

Thanks for your honest opinion! I guess with the Bar Mitzvah (sp?) this weekend, God was on my mind.

x_x · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject:

Cool, as Uncle Krunkus said: nice sequence.

I think it's too religious for me too. But nice job!

XpanderXT · Joined: Oct 22, 2007 Posts: 137 Location: the flat universe

I like it. Some interesting sounds. I like the lyric too, but I'm not offended or turned off by someone mentioning God. The flow and structure are good in the lyric.

It's funny (sad) how people will be turned off and say it's too religious but are OK with something that anti-religious.

You could play it a lot safer though. If the lyric was about something like car tires, tv, or a trip to the mall, I'm sure people would be less offended.

Inventor · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject:

At the time I was going for impact, the severity and hopelessness of Satan and his fate. I'm into stuff that has strong emotional content, see my other songs. Thanks so much for your comments, means a lot to me! Thanks!

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject:

It's not so much the references to religious concepts I find difficult. It's more the preaching, the explaination of satan/god as if it is based in truth which I find annoying. More abstract religious iconography I find very interesting, meditative, even enlightening and inspiring.
Some of Numan's newer stuff is heavy with religious overtones, although I must admit a lot of it is a means to an end, the end being a very anti-religious or re-invented religiousness. I find the mindless god bashing found so often in wanna-be satan worshiping heavy metal kind of stuff just as banal and pointless as lyrics based in theocracy.

Inventor · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject:

One sort of theme here is how God does not forgive Satan. I find that to be very significant in Christianity, how I am supposed to forgive those who have wronged me, but God does not forgive Lucifer. What kind of example does that set?

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject:

Oh, don't get me started about the contradictions in traditional religions, especially Christianity. I think it's better if I bite my tongue and appreciate your music. Very Happy

Inventor · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject:

Thanks friend. You know what I want to do with all these songs (and I should post the others), is to do a vocoder-guitar effect with them. But I need more guitar skill and a soundcard with a mic input. Unlike a PC, my eMac has no separate mic input, so I can do mic OR guitar but not both, don't that byte? Frikkin Apple. I think you would like the song "Christianity" which I haven't posted yet, it's anti-religious-fools.

XpanderXT · Joined: Oct 22, 2007 Posts: 137 Location: the flat universe

XpanderXT · Joined: Oct 22, 2007 Posts: 137 Location: the flat universe

Inventor · Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:19 am Post subject:

I have some insight into the "why". Some or dare I say many Christians are judgmental, opinionated, and self-righteous. I'll tell you part of my story. A friend at work started spending time with me and occasionally bringing up the bible or whatever and soon it was pretty obvious that he was evangelizing. Well, for various personal reasons I went along with this and eventually I did the whole "new Christian bit". I put my heart into it, I believed, I prayed, I gave, I attended, I made fellowship, etc.

Everything was fine until one day I went to church and people started staring at me and looking scornfully at me. This was not the way I had been accustomed to being treated by them. Slowly, as I am not that socially aware, I started realizing that I had been accused of a horrible sin and that rumors had spread about this accusation. Soon the rumors spread through churches and church-based coffee shops and church socials etc., and then I became a branded man.

They had falsely accused me of being a homosexual.

Now, this was in the bible-thumping deep-south of the Carolinas and I soon found that I couldn't get food or bar service, everywhere I went people whispered "there goes that gay guy", and women shunned me. I couldn't participate in fellowship anymore because everywhere I went people gossiped or preached at me. I also couldn't go to church because preachers would actually change their topic of discussion to one of anti-homosexuality when I walked in the door.

Sick and disgusted by it all, I kept to myself but other horrible things happened to me that were much worse than simply being ostracized from society based on a false accusation, and I never found out who did those things be it Christians or others.

Eventually I had a schizophrenic breakdown due to all of the abuse and torture that began with a simple church rumor and I had to give up my career, leave town, and eventually landed in a tiny little apartment living on disability with no social life and not much reason for to be happy. Today I slowly struggle to rebuild the life that was taken from me by finger-pointing Christian idiots.

THAT is why. That is why people hate Christians. Because they accuse and gossip and persecute and ruin people's lives with their cattle mentality and their self-righteousness. And it's been going on for thousands of years now. Christians have tortured people, blocked scientific progress, waged war, ostracized, and abused in an infinite variety of ways and my life story is proof that it's still going on today. That is why.

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:35 am Post subject:

That's really fucked up Lez.
My reasoning is based on the same sentiment, but I'll sum it up like this.

Because religion is evil, that's why.
Note I said religion, not spirituality. I think spirituality is naive, and gullible, but religion,.... religion is evil, probably the only truly evil thing in the world, as far as I'm concerned.

BTW U2 give me the creeps, always have.

ian-s · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:51 am Post subject:

Inventor · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:06 am Post subject:

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:26 am Post subject:

Sorry Les, Embarassed

And for what it's worth I generally believe in a lot of the life philosophies which are ascribed to the teachings of Jesus. Even though they are almost all "borrowed" from earlier "pagan" philosophies.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Judge others not, lest thee be judged.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

I just don't believe you need a God to bring you to these pearls of wisdom. Just a brain between your ears, and a sprinkling of empathy for your fellow man.

XpanderXT · Joined: Oct 22, 2007 Posts: 137 Location: the flat universe

x_x · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject:

yeah, as long as there is respect there shouldn't be any problem. I consider myself some type of agnostic, I don't judge Christians. In fact I had a mormon girlfriend. She respected my agnosticism, I respected her religion.

And yeah there is nothing wrong composing music with religious topics. Bach composed music for God, didn't he?. So yeah, the religious thing should be drop out.

peace

Inventor · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:08 am Post subject:

XpanderXT, thank you for you comments and your level-headed response. I do have some comments that contradict yours, as follows.

I notice this trend among Christians of not taking responsibility for their collective wrongdoings. You mention that people use the bible and take it out of context to manipulate others. May I remind you that the Catholic church itself condoned the torture of non-Christians during the Inquisition? And what about the crusades where thousands of people were butchered by swords and maces in the name of God and Christianity? What of the recent Catholic church scandal involving pedophiles? That stuff just happened within our lifetimes. Salem witch trials anyone?

So there is a clear and undeniable precedent for Christians killing, torturing, and abusing people in many ways. This is not some outsider who picks up a bible and pretends to be a church leader, these crimes were all committed by fully ordained Catholic priests at all levels of their hierarchy.

Despite the undeniable guilt, Christians will try to hide from this saying "It wasn't me". I'm sure every one of those Christians who spread false rumors about me has some rationalization for their behavior. The most common cop-out is to say "You know, there are non-Christians within the church", or "Christianity is the only army that shoots its own soldiers" is one I've heard. These are statements made by people who will not take responsibility for their own actions in harming others with gossip, slander, accusations, rumors, and other sneaky evil things that they do.

As to the notion that Christianity helps scientific progress, that is incorrect. There was a time when you would be killed for saying that the earth revolves around the sun, and using lenses or crystal balls would get your head chopped off! Even today Christians preach against the fossil record and they all seem to believe that the earth is 7,000 years old and that man walked with dinosaurs. Oh yes, and fossilization happens quickly and carbon dating is a myth too, according to the vast majority of Christians.

Regarding your statement that on some forums Christians are treated with open prejudice, that is unfortunate. However I do feel that Christians bring these things on themselves with their extremely hypocritical behavior. You can't do evil and then pray for forgiveness over and over again without being a hypocrite. Organized crime is a good example: rob, steal, maim, and kill during the week then ask for forgiveness on Sunday.

Furthermore regarding racism, did you know that Sunday morning at 10:00 is the most segregated hour in America? That's because there are white churches and black churches and very few mixed ones. While living in the Carolinas, I read in the newspaper about a black family who walked into a white church and was asked to leave. So if you don't want to be treated like a racist, don't be a racist.

Now, YOU may not exhibit ANY of this evil stuff. You seem like a very nice person who is thoughtful and intelligent and able to behave in an enlightened manner despite all these comments against your religion. So I am not directing any of this to you and further I feel that there are many good Christians who generally try to do good and help others, etc. Unfortunately many Christians are blissfully unaware that their beliefs and actions cause them to be in opposition with social and scientific progress.

jhaible · Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject:

Hi,

I found this thread, and I hope it's ok to post my two cents on the topic into which the thread has grown, even though it's off topic to the original intent of the thread.

I'm also a bit shy about speaking on such a topic - but with my recently re-discovered faith, I'd really love to make a few comments here.

Inventor · Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject:

No offense taken at all, thank you for your insightful observations.