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Logic behind Global Modulation Wheels of G2X
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: Logic behind Global Modulation Wheels of G2X Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Would anyone know what's the design principle for having the G2X Global Global Modulation Wheels hardwired to CC 96 and 97? (they send those CC at the midi OUT)

I am not aware of any way of disabling it either.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Those are for additional morphing sources. You can assign up to 24 different parameters to each wheel, and morph between the maximun and minimun value assigned to each parameter by movin the wheel.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think zinoff wants those two CC#'s back. It is odd how those things are hardwired...can you just use a different channel (if those messages are colliding with another piece of gear), or control a MIDI CC out module with those wheels ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I suppose that if you really need to, you can use one of these to map those CCs to something else.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: Logic behind Global Modulation Wheels of G2X Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

zinoff wrote:
......I am not aware of any way of disabling it either.


All sending of controllers can be disabled in the Synth settings, you can separately disable the sending and receiving of controllers there.

And a very usefull feature (bug?) is that when you disable the sending of controllers in the synth settings, the controller values sent by Send_CC modules will still be sent! I use this feature a lot, because the default controllers are often in conflict with my other modules (f.e. V-synth).

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Logic behind Global Modulation Wheels of G2X Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

[quote="Wan"]
zinoff wrote:
And a very usefull feature (bug?) is that when you disable the sending of controllers in the synth settings, the controller values sent by Send_CC modules will still be sent! I use this feature a lot, because the default controllers are often in conflict with my other modules (f.e. V-synth).


Hi,

I haven't done much patching yet; is it possible to then re-map global mod wheels 1 and 2 to other CCs? I had previously just assumed this would be possible.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Logic behind Global Modulation Wheels of G2X Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oli wrote:
I haven't done much patching yet; is it possible to then re-map global mod wheels 1 and 2 to other CCs? I had previously just assumed this would be possible.


Yes it is, you can get the outputs of the global wheels from the Device module and patch those into CC-send modules, then you can set the CC-send modules to any CC value.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Logic behind Global Modulation Wheels of G2X Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks!

(still, I wish they had made the CC a parameter in the System preferences)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Logic behind Global Modulation Wheels of G2X Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wan wrote:
Yes it is, you can get the outputs of the global wheels from the Device module and patch those into CC-send modules, then you can set the CC-send modules to any CC value.


Hi, thanks for the reply.

zinoff wrote:
(still, I wish they had made the CC a parameter in the System preferences)


Would have made sense, really.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Logic behind Global Modulation Wheels of G2X Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

zinoff wrote:
Would anyone know what's the design principle for having the G2X Global Global Modulation Wheels hardwired to CC 96 and 97?...


Clavia needed to reserve the G2X Global Modulation Wheels like the other special G2 front panel controller MIDI assigns (variation selection, keyboard hold, octave shift, etc.) to try to keep MIDI CC assignments consistent across all of the G2 patches. Hardwiring the G2(X) front panel controllers to certain MIDI CCs also makes it much more convenient to slave G2s...

But, I do agree that it would have been a very nice feature to have the option to disable each G2 hardwired assignment from being sent to the MIDI output. That would make the G2 much more MIDI controller friendly with other gear.

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