G2 MIDI clock/overall "tightness"

kcinsu · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: G2 MIDI clock/overall "tightness"

So, is it just me, or is the G2 not super tight with it's timing? I've always found that when I play percussive patches, along with sequenced audio, it just sounds kind of sloppy. Now, I know MIDI isn't going to compare to sample accurate audio, but it just seems looser than it should.

Anyone else feel the same? This goes for both internal sequences, as well as when I sequence from a DAW.

I always end up doing time correction. Lately though, I've been wanting to use the G2 for live performances, and so I want it playing along with sequenced audio, and it just sounds sloppy to my ears.

Also, does anyone have experience using the Elektron TurboMIDI interface? It supposedly makes MIDI timing 10x more accurate... could this be my solution? Is there a noticeable difference?
Thanks guys!

jamos · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject:

Every time this is discussed, it always comes back to the clock source, not the G2. usually people are using a Mac or PC system as the clock source, which is the problem. Most MIDI software is not written with tight clock timing.

kcinsu · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject:

so this has been discussed before...

so do you have a solution for this? I mean not using software isnt really an option for me.

fyi, I'm using Live.

blue hell · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject:

No software Laughing

The idea is to sync computer based synths from hardware based synths, and not the other way around. This seems to result in more stable systems in general.

kcinsu · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject:

you mean sequencers?

blue hell · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject:

Yes ... No ... I meant ... pc based stuff vs stuff in a dedicated box ... as in "Make the PC sync to the g2", or a HW sequencer, yes, that could work too.

BTW When the PC syncs from the G2 the G2 could still be started and stopped from th PC (with CC 80 IRC ... hmm, better look it up ... shit ... them f*** morons hired a web designer, sorry can't find the manual in that mess no more).

jamos · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject:

Use the G2 as the master, not the computer. That's the solution.

iPassenger · Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:21 am Post subject:

As said above the problems is the clock coming from your cmputer, which will be sloppy, which in turn makes the G2 sloppy.

The G2 has a very stable clock, if i clock my G2 with my MD or other way around there is zero drift, super tight timing, easy to test it using high speed triggered reset lfo's and sample and holds and listen to the results, it should be the same every time and it is.

If you use the G2 to clock your pc your still heading for trouble as it is unlikely that your PC will be able to accurately interpret the clock being sent to it, it will slop up and jitter this too, making it look like the Nord is sending it a wonky clock in the first place.

No simple solution other than that forget about PCs, accept a little jitter or look at one of innerclocks, audio channel based midi clocks.