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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: ZFS on the mac! happy happy joy joy
Subject description: OS X 10.5 now includes ZFS!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ZFS!


ZFS: the last word in file systems

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Followed your links and a few more, looks very promising.

What I'd been dreaming of is an object oriented system. As a programmer I'm not directly interested in files, but I just want to have persistent data storage for arbitrary data under some path like structured name. Both disks and memory should have support for that without bothering even the OS. Let alone the programmer. Maybe like in http://www.noofs.org/product.html .

Stoll, ZFS seems good progress from what we commonly have now Very Happy

I read that Apple's can't boot right now from ZFS, but I guess you'll need it for large disks that won't silently corrupt ?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
I read that Apple's can't boot right now from ZFS, but I guess you'll need it for large disks that won't silently corrupt ?


Indeed, and the pool idea is excellent. Just add more disks to the existing pool and build a flexible storage across drives and whatnot.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
and whatnot.


It seemed big enough to hold the whole internet in a single file system Shocked

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That´s what I´m saying!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BTW, it is exciting to see that the current 10.5 seed supports RaidZ2. This is the RaidZ version which supports double parity. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Another fun link:

http://themachackers.com/2006/12/19/zfs-on-mac-os-x-105-a-closer-look/

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ZFS is of course the filesystem of choice for your digital media. It makes perfect sense that Apple have embraced ZFS because of how Apple already have been pushing media management apps like iTunes, iPhoto, Aperture as well as content creation apps like Logic, Final Cut, iMovie and others. One strong feature of ZFS is the ability to span volumes across drives.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blue hell wrote:
I read that Apple's can't boot right now from ZFS....
No, nothing can, not SunOS, not Nexenta.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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No, nothing can, not SunOS, not Nexenta.


Ok, it just seemed a bit odd.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:


Ok, it just seemed a bit odd.


Possibly not, I think that ZFS is probably not meant for booting anyway -- that's not where the OSes are at...unfortunately.

...regarding persistent storage of data, I was musing on whether the following would count (even though it results in a file, the "file" is the totality of storage, and it accepts any data) http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/Classes/NSKeyedArchiver_Class/Reference/Reference.html

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

brinxmat wrote:
...regarding persistent storage of data, I was musing on whether the following would count (even though it results in a file, the "file" is the totality of storage, and it accepts any data)


As an object storage system it would certainly count IMO, I'd like the the work to be done though by the disk drive itself, not by a program (or the OS).

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