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Mankato Front Panel opinion/interest?
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suitandtieguy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Mankato Front Panel opinion/interest?
Subject description: also anyone need MTA100 pigtails?
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EDIT: i just realised this is my first post. i've been reading the forum off and on for a while, but not had anything to contribute here actually. so i guess this is "Hello!"

with the blessing of the Magic Smoke boys, i've worked up a couple of layouts for the Mankato Filter, for a commercial and manufactured aspect to this product. unlike the other modules that i sell, i'll be making these panels available seperately to DIY types.

3FU (FU = Frac Unit):



or 2MU (MU = Moog Unit):



i don't know how much they'll be yet but i'm assuming more than a Stooge Panel and less than a Shaffer panel. complete fabrication would of course be included. if you need 3/8" holes for potentiometers that would have to be specified in advance of course, as i only use 5/16" potentiometers.

any feelings on these layouts before i proceed? i like them quite a bit but if there's 4 pages of people who think they're totally bogus then i know not to make a hundred of them.

i can also make MTA100 pigtail assemblies for people who don't have the crimping tool and also don't wish to injure themselves trying to insert the wires into the connectors with a screwdriver. i think that would be 20 dollars for the set.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

visually, i really dig the circular layout of the outputs. egonomically, i think having a contol in the middle of that circle will be problematic... especially when using it as a quadrature source, meaning the control will be hemmed in by patch cords.

that said, i'd probably buy one (frac) anyway... thanks for making the DIY option available.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bbob wrote:
egonomically, i think having a contol in the middle of that circle will be problematic... especially when using it as a quadrature source, meaning the control will be hemmed in by patch cords.


actually yes it would be, if it were the tweak-most-iest knob.

i have a feeling the vernier is going to be used more than the coarse control, so i'm not too worried about it from a UI point-of-view.

bbob wrote:
that said, i'd probably buy one (frac) anyway... thanks for making the DIY option available.


you're welcome. hopefully i can do more DIY-oriented things like that, but my product line needs to stabilise more before i do so.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

fair enough, regarding the pot placement. i haven't received my boards yet, so i haven't had a chance to play yet. soon, tho.

i took a peak at some of th alternate layouts you were apparently playing with... i like the one on the right:

Posted Image, might have been reduced in size. Click Image to view fullscreen.

again, for ergonomics, my personal preference is to keep the controls and the patchcords separated. it also happens to be consitant w/ several of my other filters (top-to-bottom: freq., Q, FM amt.) just my $.02.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Would you by chance be able to do them in Euro format with holes for 3.5mm jacks?

Silver face with black legends?

Just a hope
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is making a front panel justification enough to put a giant 'Suit and Tie Guy' logo? Theres no mention of 'Magic Smoke' and a small 'T.Henry' that seems like an afterthought.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Photon wrote:
Is making a front panel justification enough to put a giant 'Suit and Tie Guy' logo? Theres no mention of 'Magic Smoke' and a small 'T.Henry' that seems like an afterthought.


Peter


nice layout but

I'm with Photon on this one

why would i want to have Suit and Tie Guy' logo on the panel Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I see the point about the STG logo -- after all, Stooge panels don't say "Stooge" on them -- but I think I know the reason. These panels would primarily be produced as components for STG's complete modules. Selling them to DIYers is something that he's willing to do *only* for the Mankato, so we appreciate that a great deal. There's no practical way to produce 2 versions of each panel.

Speaking as half of Magic Smoke, I don't mind that our name is missing from the panel. Then again, I wouldn't mind seeing it on there, either. Wink

I rather like the STG logo, anyway.

BTW, if you Google for "mankato filter" (without quotes), we come up first! Not too surprising, but still fun.

BTW #2, I hear that it's pronounced man-KAY-toe, not man-KAH-toe.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Danno Gee Ray wrote:
Would you by chance be able to do them in Euro format with holes for 3.5mm jacks?

Silver face with black legends?


i will do an EU version of this, but the power connector issue has to be dealt with, and these two are a higher priority right now. it might incorporate a daughterboard ... the idea of an MTA156->EU power cable adapter harness thing just kind of doesn't interest me.

i still haven't decided on what i'm going to do for my EU modules as far as appearance goes. i'm not really fond of the bare aluminum with black lettering, but it's common in EU. however with MFB doing EU modules in black and Cwejman doing them in green, i think there's some room in the market for vision wiggle, or maybe something really audacious.

i'm going to dp another revision of the FU layout, i had an idea about the knobs along the right side that didn't look ugly. i'll try to have it up tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bitmonkey wrote:

Speaking as half of Magic Smoke, I don't mind that our name is missing from the panel.


As long as your cool with it. I was surprised because I've only ever known the Mankato as a T.Henry/Magic Smoke joint project. Along comes STG's first post and he's selling a Mankato panel with his name on it and no mention of Magic Smoke. Smelled a bit funny is all. Thanks for filling me in. I'm sorry if I came off aggressive or overly negative. I was just looking out for my peeps. Wink

hey Suit and Tie Guy.... welcome

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm not really in the market for front panels, but...

S&TG - just reading your words there I thought to look back at the images you've posted and what stuck me as ?jarring? is that the lettering top & bottom is centred, whereas the actual control surface is kind of 1/3 to 2/3 ratio.. (if that makes sense?) . Though maybe that's a standard arrangement - I don't know any of the ins & outs of such module designs!

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edit - hmm, actually... dunno if I even agree with myself, but still maybe worth the comment..

&, anyways, the circular arrangement of outputs is rocking!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Photon wrote:

I was just looking out for my peeps. Wink


Appreciated, bro! Smile I think that you missed something in STG's post, though:
"with the blessing of the Magic Smoke boys..."

As I said, it's a favor to MSE that STG is selling these panels to DIYers. Sure, he'll make a few bucks on them, but it's not his normal business.

BTW... For those who don't know him, STG is an expert on Hammond organs and knows a ton about Moog modulars. His front panels are made with the same photographic aluminum process that Moog used, and they look *way* sharper than silkscreened-ink-on-textured-paint. It's really nice, I must say. I also think that Suity's graphic designs and layouts are excellent, but of course "YMMV".

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd be interested in a frac panel. I kind of prefer the frac design in the first post. When you say "20 dollars for the set" do you mean the panel/power cable set?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

this final revision:

http://pics.livejournal.com/suitandtieguy/pic/0002abcp/g10

is getting here tomorrow. i went with the frac version first because i felt it was imperitive to have this ready for the bay area synth meetup next weekend. the dotcom version will be ready in a couple weeks.

i'm going to go out on a limb here and offer it for 42 dollars shipped within the US, 57 USD with all 20 or so of the MTA100 pigtails too. it's _slightly_ less than i feel comfortable with, but i'm in a good mood today and would rather not let anyone think i was just here for the money.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cool panel. Cant wait to see it. I will be at the Bay Area AH event too. See you there.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

okay i have 8 of these "error" panels, black type on bare aluminum. they're supposed to be be inverted from this. everything is correct about them except for the colour, and the pot value printed below the knob skirt (it should read "100k linear" instead of "50k lin."

anyway i have 8 of these for sale at 30 dollars shipped apiece. the proper panels are in the middle of being made right now and will sell for 42 dollars shipped. those are US prices ... i haven't worked out intn'l shipping yet.

drop me a PM or email if you're interested and i'll get you my paypal address.

thanks much.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

so these jokers i was working with on this finally got me useable panels. black background, bare aluminum writing. they're very pretty.

i'll get some photos up soon but the skinny is that i have stock of 18 of these if anyone wants them. 12 are already spoken for.

i guess if i actually use all of them a re-order is in order, so why do i even mention quantities other than just being open about it?


and i guess this is an heads-up to those who have already ordered that "yes your panels will get to you soon."
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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and i guess this is an heads-up to those who have already ordered that "yes your panels will get to you soon."


That's great news. Can't wait to see my panel Very Happy Thanks for doing them Very Happy

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