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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:47 am Post subject:
interest in audio ark pcb?? (tracking section) |
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I dont have one yet. and in fact i might want someone else to take over the layout over in the layout factory. BUT what i am trying to determine is if anyone would be interested.
this would be a pcb of ONLY the tracking and FREAK SECTION.
which would be something like this for controls
1. sensitivity
2. FREAK
3. freak on off switch
4. slur
5. slur switch
6. choke
7. choke switch
8. rotary switch for INTERVAL
9. rotary switch for OCTAVE
now, if i wanted this to be simple, i would need to just have an INPUT for your own gate. (the gate is necessary to activate the auto SUSTAIN feature)...however it is possible this could be included.
but some people might PREFER to use their own AUDIO to gate converter (all it is is a circuit that puts out a gate based on the incoming signal)
this gate drives a 4016 which turns sustain ON OR OFF
also...if there is an internal mixer on the pcb (which there might not be)
there would be a mix for INTERVAL/OCTAVE and PLAY OVER HOLD (which allows you to play an octave down ON top of something that is HOLDING forever)
THE FREAK section,messes up the way the 4046 tracks.
if there is no interest, that is OK. but i am just trying to test the waters.
thanks _________________ -------------------------------------------- check out various dan music at: http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
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ericcoleridge

Joined: Jan 16, 2007 Posts: 889 Location: NYC
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:36 am Post subject:
Re: interest in audio ark pcb?? (tracking section) |
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loss1234 wrote: |
if there is no interest, that is OK. but i am just trying to test the waters.
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I'm interested, but I'd like to know more about the circuit. I'll read through the first post. |
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frequencycentral

Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 186 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:57 am Post subject:
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Very interested! And would love to see the shematic too! Good work Dan.... _________________ http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/ |
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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:05 am Post subject:
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i will be attempting to redraw the schematic sometime soon (but not too soon as my wife is literally due in a week or two and i have to clean up the mess the ark left!)
and also..someone had asked for a block diagram so i will try to do that too.
i think the best way to do this would either be press n peel OR maybe the layout factory. i am a novice at pcb layout and i am terribly disorganized so i would NEVER want to have lots of people sending me money for a pcb. i think i would lose somebody's adress,etc.
SO i think very soon i will post what i have of the tracking section, and we can go from there!
this will be somewhat advanced project as you will need to provide at the least a MIXER for the DRY/octave/interval sections. and most likely, we will want to use an OFF board Audio to gate converter.
that way, people can use whatever gate system they want to trigger the sustain
(the sustain system was barely used at all in the video. so some people might not even want to bother with it)
really it is a pretty simple circuit BUT may need tweaking depending on the way YOU play guitar. _________________ -------------------------------------------- check out various dan music at: http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
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slacker
Joined: Nov 18, 2007 Posts: 301 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:28 am Post subject:
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I'd be interested to have a look at the schematic.
From the video you posted it sounds like it tracks pretty good, nice work  |
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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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loss1234

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RF

Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1502 Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject:
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I'm interested, Dan.
Not so much the Hold feature though....
bruce _________________ www.sdiy.org/rfeng
"I want to make these sounds that go wooo-wooo-ah-woo-woo.”
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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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numbernone
Joined: Aug 16, 2006 Posts: 477 Location: new york city
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:11 am Post subject:
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Im totally interested in this, I love the ESP on my MS20 but it looks like maybe your tracking has improved on it a good bit.
Also I would be willing to take a crack at doing a circuit layout for it. But it may be better for somebody more at home with PnP and one sided boards. If all comes to naught let me know...I love designing boards. |
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creatorlars

Joined: Nov 26, 2007 Posts: 524 Location: Denton, TX
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject:
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i know i already e-mailed you about this, but i'd like to mention here that i am extremely interested in a PCB or two of this project.
cheers,
lars |
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:
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numbernone wrote: | Im totally interested in this, I love the ESP on my MS20 but it looks like maybe your tracking has improved on it a good bit. |
as i understood it, dan's circuit does not provide a CV out, since the squared audio signal syncs an internal VCO. and it does its job obviously very very good.
i am working currently on a MS20 ESP like circuit BTW (partly just an MS20 clone). hope it will be finished 2nd quarter of 2009.
however, i doubt it will track as nice at dan's audio ark.
anyways, dan: i am interested in a PCB, too.  _________________
cheers,
matthias
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numbertalk

Joined: May 05, 2008 Posts: 992 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject:
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I'd be interested in a PCB. Great job! |
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Funky40
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject:
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I'm interested to see the schematics, and i'm also interested in a PCb.
Yeah, looks as tracking works fine
I'm very interested in this project ! |
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Danno Gee Ray
Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1351 Location: Telford, PA USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject:
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Dependig on cost / complexity / external connectios, I could very well be interested. |
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Sound
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject:
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sorry, i dont understand what does this circuit. It have a pitch to CV converter? |
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etaoin

Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 761 Location: Utrecht, NL
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:23 am Post subject:
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Quote: | sorry, i dont understand what does this circuit. It have a pitch to CV converter? |
loss1234 has forgotten that he had the whole ark-stuff over on sdiy, so some people over here are probably clueless about what it is  _________________ http://www.casia.org/modular/ |
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Sound
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject:
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Etaoin wrote: | Quote: | sorry, i dont understand what does this circuit. It have a pitch to CV converter? |
loss1234 has forgotten that he had the whole ark-stuff over on sdiy, so some people over here are probably clueless about what it is  |
Etoin, where is it? any link? |
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Dave Kendall

Joined: May 26, 2007 Posts: 421 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:42 am Post subject:
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Hi.
The [sdiy] list is a mail-based list, but you can search through the posts here
Type audio ark in the search field, leaving the other settings on default.
It will take a while, and when the results come in, scroll to the bottom DEC 2008. There is a link to a youtube video amongst others.
cheers,
Dave |
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pristak
Joined: Nov 17, 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject:
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I finally had time to check out the youtube videos. I'm definately interested in a couple of these pcbs.
Do you know if it will track bass as well as guitar? |
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creatorlars

Joined: Nov 26, 2007 Posts: 524 Location: Denton, TX
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:37 am Post subject:
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Not sure if it's the same principle, but I know most Pitch-to-Midi solutions I have experimented with in both software in hardware track bass much easier than guitar. |
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