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Nord Lead 2 Performance/Midi question
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Nord Lead 2 Performance/Midi question
Subject description: using Nord Lead 2 performances and external midi controllers
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Hi, I'm using a Nord Lead 2, primarily the H1 organ performance preset. Recently I've wanted to play another program at the same time by plugging an Axiom 25 midi controller into the midi in.

In regular program mode, I can set the midi channel of a program (say, on button a) to whatever the midi channel of the Axiom is, then on button b pick another program and play the two programs- one with the controller and the other with the nord keyboard.

However, the organ sound I use is a performance (H1), so this won't work. I notice that the H1 performance doesn't have the d button lit. Is there any way to set this to another program that the axiom can control? I can't seem to be able to.

Thanks for reading.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome weevil

Did you read http://electro-music.com/forum/post-218110.html#218110 already?

Anyway, in your particular set-up you need to perform the following procedure, which I haven't tried out myself, so maybe you can do it or I try next saturday:

1 In Performance mode press all four Slots of H1 at once > only one LED will be lit.
2 Press Slot A.
3 Press Shift+Midi and scroll the Midi channel of Slot A to 'off'.
4 Do the same with Slot B and Slot C.
5 Activate Slot A, B and C > the NL2 Keyboard is able to control these.
6 Activate Slot D
7 Using Shift+Midi scroll using the arrows to any Midi Channel by which you want your Axiom to control the NL2.
8 Choose a Program in Slot D.
9 Most important: de-activate Slot D. (LED D is out)
10 Save the Performance on a PCMCIA card or as a Midi file in any sequencer.

And did you also checked these posts?
http://electro-music.com/forum/post-218528.html#218528

Wout

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Thanks! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Awesome, I'll try this out right away.

Another odd thing I've noticed about my Lead... when I am not in performance mode, I can select programs for A, B, C, and D, but only A and B actually make any sound when I play on the keyboard. Is that normal?

Also, it crashes a lot.. but that's probably from a couple of years of gigging abuse. There's no place that I know of in town that does repairs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Thanks! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

weevil wrote:
Awesome, I'll try this out right away.
Let us read your results
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Another odd thing I've noticed about my Lead... when I am not in performance mode, I can select programs for A, B, C, and D, but only A and B actually make any sound when I play on the keyboard. Is that normal?
This depends on the Out mode settings. Set C and D to Cd.-, which means 'copy A and B'.
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Also, it crashes a lot.. but that's probably from a couple of years of gigging abuse. There's no place that I know of in town that does repairs.
Is there a Midi cable connected which sends a lot of data?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Excellent! it works! Now I just need to figure out how to map the knobs on the axiom to my arpeggiator knobs and I'm set, I can check the axiom manual for that.

As far as the crashing goes, I haven't used any midi at all with the keyboard until now. I checked some of the other posts on here and it's probable that there's a loose connection inside. I'll open it up and check. Also, a couple of my top keys have been broken off, so debris could have gotten inside I suppose. (I learned the hard way after touring that hard cases are a must).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

weevil wrote:
Excellent! it works!
Smile Well, I have to congratulate myself... Never done this thing before, so it was al done just theoretically. There is some real logical thinking in this synth design!
Note Saving the Performance is important, because only in Performance mode settings like Midi channel, Slot active or not are saved in that mode only!
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Now I just need to figure out how to map the knobs on the axiom to my arpeggiator knobs and I'm set, I can check the axiom manual for that.
Indeed, you can't use the Leads knobs, because Slot D isn't active! You'll find the CC numbers in the Manual.
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As far as the crashing goes, I haven't used any midi at all with the keyboard until now. I checked some of the other posts on here and it's probable that there's a loose connection inside. I'll open it up and check.
Could also be a bad power supply. Electronics don't live for ever...
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Also, a couple of my top keys have been broken off, so debris could have gotten inside I suppose. (I learned the hard way after touring that hard cases are a must).
Or maybe you can replace the complete keyboard, it's a Fatar design. Spare keys can be bought, but as you wrote already there is no good shop in the neighborhood.

Ehh... Maybe a new one? They still produce the NordLead2X, which has more voices, very important using four Slots!
More then 15 years now... I wonder which synth has the same history... Respect to the red lady!

Wout
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not sure I can budget a whole new synth at this point, but I will probably eventually get a 2x.

I'm a little stumped about the arpeggiator knobs. I can see what CC the axiom knob is sending, but I can't figure out how to get the Lead to listen for that code... I have the lead manual out too, but I'm not finding what I need.

By the way, my problem with buttons C and D was just that they were sending out on the B and D channels instead of out mono, I changed the output mode as you suggested and it fixed it.

I think I've learned more about my keyboard in the past few hours than I have in the past two years.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Three questions...
weevil wrote:
I'm a little stumped about the arpeggiator knobs. I can see what CC the axiom knob is sending, but I can't figure out how to get the Lead to listen for that code... I have the lead manual out too, but I'm not finding what I need.
You know what CC numbers you want to address in the NordLead? [Manual page 91]
Did you already preform [Shift+(2x)Prog.Ctrl] > C.on? If C.of is set, the Lead doesn't react to the CC messages.
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... I think I've learned more about my keyboard in the past few hours than I have in the past two years.
Want to know the number of my bank account? Wink

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