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The CMOS chips that I have for my Lunetta experience
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Rykhaard



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject:  The CMOS chips that I have for my Lunetta experience Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey all. I decided to take the plunge and build a portable, noise machine for myself as well.

Last night I went searching through my parts stock to see what I have for CMOS chips. I thought that I would post the listing of all of these, as there are a few that I haven't seen any of you listing in your modules. Perhaps there would be interest in some of them:

- CD4069 x 4 (hex inverter)
- CD4049 x 8 (hex inverter)
- CD4015 x 2 (dual 4 stage shift register)
- CD4012 x 2 (dual 4 Input NAND)
- CD4192 x 2 (Binary Coded Decimal Presetable 4 bit Up / Down counter)
- CD4078 x 1 (8 input NOR)
- CD4002 x 6 (dual 4 input NOR)
- CD4023 x 3 (triple 3 input NAND)
- CD4445 x 2 (I can't find data on this chip any more. Anyone??)
- CD4404 x 1 (I can't find data on this chip any more. Anyone??)
- CD4071 x 4 (quad 2 input OR)
- CD4001 x 7 (quad 2 input NOR)
- CD4511 x 7 (BCD (7 segment) display driver - trashing them all)
- CD40106 x at least 25 (the ol' standard hex Schmidt inverter)
- CD4077 x 5 (quad 2 input XNOR)
- CD4029 x 4 (presetable binary / decade 4 bit up/down counter)
- CD4016 x 1 (quad SPST switch. Trashing. OLD stock. Not trusted.)
- CD4007 x 1 (dual complimentary pair plus inverter. Same as 4016.)
- CD4066 x 13 (quad SPST switch)
- CD4052 x 15 (dual 1 to 4 / 4 to 1 multiplexer)
- CD4070 x 8 (quad XOR)
- CD4093 x 6 (quad 2 input Schmidt NAND)
- CD4094 x 1 (8-Bit Shift Register/Latch with 3-STATE Outputs)
- CD4514 x 2 (4-Bit Latched/4-to-16 Line Decoders - MFOS sequencer chip)
- CD4024 x 7 (7 stage binary ripple counter)
- CD4051 x 8 (1 to 8 / 8 to 1 multiplexer)
- CD4013 x 7 (dual D flip flop)
- CD4053 x 8 (triple SPDT switch)
- CD4017 x 6 (Decade Counter/Divider with 10 Decoded Outputs)

I'm going to start breadboarding some ideas today. I still haven't decided into what contraption I'll be mounting this entire thing or, how big it'll get. I want it to be inside of 1 container though and portable - preferably able to run off of batteries. Though I may stick with a +15V wallwart, so that I don't have any interfacing troubles with my modular.

Hopefully - some of these other chips may be of interest in their functions to other Lunetta builders out there. Smile
- CD4046 x 3 (phase locked loop / VCO)
- CD7555 x 3 (CMOS version of the 555)
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stolenfat



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i just got some:

4011
4093
4069
40106
4584 (they're supposed to be just like the 40106)
4024
4077
4023
4051
4015
4066
4017

should be a good start for an interesting lunetta

any interesting things i can do with a 4069, besides inversion?
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Rykhaard



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

stolenfat wrote:
i just got some:

4011
4093
4069
40106
4584 (they're supposed to be just like the 40106)
4024
4077
4023
4051
4015
4066
4017

should be a good start for an interesting lunetta

any interesting things i can do with a 4069, besides inversion?


If it's UNbuffered, you can do quite a lot of things. Smile I'll have to see what the others are.

(Few seconds later) I sent that too soon. The 4023 is the triple input NAND. (As I've used in my Pulse Width Oscillator). I know the rest. All decent usable stuff. Smile

(1/2 hour later) Woohoo! Just went down to my shop and found that i have 2 unbuffered CD4069's as well! Ex'llent. I'm going to try making either a VCO or VCF them. Smile

(If they have a UB suffix, they're unbuffered. For a reason I don't remember, the buffered 4069's, wont work.)
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droffset



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've built up a collection, time to stop buying and get building!

40106 x3
4001
4011 x5
4015
4017 x3
4018
4019
4021
4022
4023
4024
4027 x2
4040
4046
4051 x2
4066
4070
4077
4093 x2
4094 x2
4516

TCM1506-telephone ringer, hehe
LM3900
74LS373 - Octal transparent latch
lm741
lm386
lm833
TL071 x3
555 x2
556 x2

Yes, i've gone mad. I'm ok with that. It'll take a while but should be fun.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: The CMOS chips that I have for my Lunetta experience Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rykhaard wrote:

- CD4445 x 2 (I can't find data on this chip any more. Anyone??)
- CD4404 x 1 (I can't find data on this chip any more. Anyone??)


maybe the same 4404 is mentioned in the art of electronics -
here
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I bought a handfull of 4584 from jameco the otherday because they had no 40106s and these chips were listed as the same thing. I decided to test.

I breaded up a 40106 in a simple RC fashion to create a square wave and noted the tone it made through the amp. I then flopped out the 40106 and dropped a 4584 down and it did oscillate, just not at the same frequency. The 4584 created a higher pitch with all the same components.

Let it be known that the 4584 and the 40106 are similar, but NOT identical.


This is, of course, with out trying multiple 40106s and other 4584s, which could provide varying results, perhaps.

Oh- i also discovered that my battery supply was almost dead after testing, which could have further change the results. (but i bet the two chips are still not 100% identical)
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Rykhaard



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

According to the datasheet for the Motorola MC14584, the CD40106 has greater hysteresis capability than the 4584. They are also saying that the 4584 can be used as a pin for pin compatible replacement for the 4069.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

really? i thought the 4069 was an inverter... so your saying, according to motoralla, you can make simple rc oscillaters with them? wacky
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