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Nord Lead 2 - Trouble Loading New Banks of Presets
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alexhall74



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Nord Lead 2 - Trouble Loading New Banks of Presets
Subject description: Cannot Load John Lehmkul or Sean Charles Sounds from Clavia Site
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Hey there everyone,

I recently bought a Nord Lead 2 and love it to all ends of the Earth. I am however having trouble loading it with any of the sample sound banks kindly provided by Clavia on their web site:

http://www.clavia.se/downloads/sounds/nordlead.htm

I know these sounds originally were to be loaded onto a PCMCIA card, and plan to buy one from Memorix as soon as I can scrape up $175.

My questions is, can these soundbanks be laoded into the internal memory of the Nord Lead 2 if I do not have a PCMCIA RAM card? I have set the global MIDI cahnnel to 1, and tried to load the banks to my NL2 with MIDI Quest 10XL, and nothing has happened.

I have a shoulder operation scheduled for this Thursday and was hoping to be able to jam out with my NL2 (with one arm) while recovering at home for a few days.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can provide any information as to how I can load new sounds into my NL2. Hopefully I'll be able to answer a few questions here after I've gotten up to speed with the NL2. My primary synth (at the moment) is a Virus KC.

Smile

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-Alex
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Nord Lead 2 - Trouble Loading New Banks of Presets
Subject description: Cannot Load John Lehmkul or Sean Charles Sounds from Clavia Site
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alexhall74 wrote:
Hey there everyone
welcome alexhall74
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I recently bought a Nord Lead 2 and love it to all ends of the Earth. I am however having trouble loading it with any of the sample sound banks kindly provided by Clavia on their web site: http://www.clavia.se/downloads/sounds/nordlead.htm
Well, this is an archive dedicated to the NordLead(1)... At http://www.clavia.se/downloads/sounds/nordlead2.htm you'll find the NordLead2 site, or even better at our own site: http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/020_NordLead2/
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I know these sounds originally were to be loaded onto a PCMCIA card, and plan to buy one from Memorix as soon as I can scrape up $175.
My questions is, can these soundbanks be laoded into the internal memory of the Nord Lead 2 if I do not have a PCMCIA RAM card?
Yes, you'll need the card, mainly because the SysEx is send to your synth in a Midi file!
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I have set the global MIDI cahnnel to 1, and tried to load the banks to my NL2 with MIDI Quest 10XL, and nothing has happened.
Set it to Global channel 16. Anyway, the internal user memory is only 40 locations and these Midi files mostly contain 99 files. For uploading Performances you certainly have to use a card, so be it to the Percussion mode files...
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I have a shoulder operation scheduled for this Thursday and was hoping to be able to jam out with my NL2 (with one arm) while recovering at home for a few days.
All the best with the recovering of your shoulder.
About sending Programs to the synth. At the user site there is a handy tool (some bugs, though) which can download from your hard disc to the synth and you are able to see the settings of the knobs
http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/020_NordLead2/023_Miscellaneous/NordGenerator_Editor/
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Thanks in advance to anyone that can provide any information as to how I can load new sounds into my NL2. Hopefully I'll be able to answer a few questions here after I've gotten up to speed with the NL2. My primary synth (at the moment) is a Virus KC.
What's that, a Virus... I thought you had an injury to your shoulder...?

Wink

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

WOW! Many thanks for such a quick and comprehensive reply! I will certainly digest this knowledge this evening once I get home.

It looks like I am going to have to go without food for a few weeks in order to quickly order my PCMCIA RAM card. Wink

The good news is that once the presets are on the RAM card I can extract them with MIDI Quest 10 XL and manipulate them quite flexibly. Maybe I could even break them down into banks of 40 to allow others that do not have a PCMCIA RAM card to load the Nord Library presets? I will look into this as a means to become useful here.

Thanks for the well wishes on the operation. My other hobby besides music is weightlifting. I plan to LEAD a less damaging life once I recover from my shoulder VIRUS. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

alexhall74 wrote:
... It looks like I am going to have to go without food for a few weeks in order to quickly order my PCMCIA RAM card. Wink
A bad idea when recovering from an operation, my friend...
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The good news is that once the presets are on the RAM card I can extract them with MIDI Quest 10 XL and manipulate them quite flexibly. Maybe I could even break them down into banks of 40 to allow others that do not have a PCMCIA RAM card to load the Nord Library presets? I will look into this as a means to become useful here.
In the user archive they are already available as single files, so one file is one Program or one sound. No need to use the Card yet: use your PC for a while!

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

alexhall74 wrote:
... I will look into this as a means to become useful here. ...
Oops, I overlooked this remark! Well, there are a lot of things one can do, here Smile

First recover from your shoulder and enjoy the synth. Later we will discuss some 'specialties' about the NordLead.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey Wout,

Somehow I missed that the banks were available as singles, that spares me the food intake while recovering (never a concern really, I have a voracious appetit). Cool!

Will still look into the banks fo 40 thing just as a "learning project" of a sort.

Looking forward to learniing the specialities of the Nord Lead. I have already tweaked up some bass patches and they have blown me away. The NL2 has a very distinct character when throwing down a hard, nasty bass patch. Totally different thant the Virus, IMO. The arps on the NL2 are a refreshing experience too as they sound good without all the phaser and other FX that lend to the Virus sound. It's really nice to hear an instrument that sounds os good, clean wothout FX.

Here's a picture of my workspace, I just built the second shelf onto a Gemini L Desk ($90) with scrap lumber, wood stain, and silver spray paint:
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Really looking forward to checking this beast out. Thanks a bucnh for your help and info. I'll post back in a few days after the op. while I take two days off from work to read my NL2 user manual and this forum from end to end.

Wink

Best regards,

-Alex
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

so I'm wondering if I get one of these cards http://www.vikant.com/claviacard.html

can I have all the sound libraries from the clavia site at my finger tips or just one sound library at a time?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wow! Nice find!

I assume you can load the banks of one full card from the Clavia Sound Library series. This would mkae senesf if Clavia sold the cards in thie format historically, I don't think they issued 4 cards for each sound bank of 99 in each library carde series 1-4. Can anyone confirm this guess (or refute it!).

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah it's a great price. Not that I don't think my NL2 isn't already versatile but imagine how crazy it would be to have an additional 3/4 sound libraries, maybe too crazy...
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nightrider wrote:
... can I have all the sound libraries from the clavia site at my finger tips or just one sound library at a time?
I don't have the manual her at hand, but it is stated only 64 kB is used... So you'll need four cards to save four libraries. The rest of the card isn't used at all... Surprised

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,
this is my first reply here. I'm a professional musician from Spain (sorry about my not perfect english). I have bought a week ago the Nord Rack 2. Well, you know, this synth is god. I have found your forum searching for the pcmcia card. I have search and search and i have a idea that i want to share with you: is possible to use a pcmcia adapter with a CF card with the nord? that will be very inexpensive and you may have CF card without use.

what do you think?
thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome klinklan

I never tried...
I would say: try it out! Maybe some computer store is willing to help you. If it works, the synth will want to format the card first before use. If this doesn't happen, it doesn't work. Sounds simple, doesn't it?
Could it fry your synth? I don't think so, but I can't guarantee you this...

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks. i will try the soon as possible. its really annoying the lack of memory in the nord for the presets, and i don't understand why i cant save any performance without external card, i think is a great error. The 2X solves this question but is so expensive in my opinion for what it gives.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

klinklan wrote:
... and i don't understand why i cant save any performance without external card, i think is a great error. ...
Well, just remember we are talking about a synth which was made in concept almost twenty years ago. And the sound is still right Smile

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

klinklan wrote:
thanks. i will try the soon as possible. its really annoying the lack of memory in the nord for the presets, and i don't understand why i cant save any performance without external card, i think is a great error. The 2X solves this question but is so expensive in my opinion for what it gives.


PLEASE let us know how this goes once you've tried, thanks
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK, I'm back again with a question about the NordGen application.

Do I put the drivers for it (MxMidi16.dll, MxMidi32.dll, MxMidi95.dll) in my Windows system folder with all my other device drivers/DLLs?

I tried to run the NordGen program and each time I try to send a patch to the NL2 it states "The application must shutdown unexpectedly..." for some reason. I currently have the device driver files in the same directory as the NordGen application.

Does anybody know how to sort this out?

Cheers everyone!

-Alex

P.S. Shoulder operation went well, kind of sore right now, but pain meds work well.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think they have to be in the system folder and when this doesn't work, try 98 mode, if you're on XP.

I hope Jan (BLue Hell knows more...)

Wout

Keep up the shoulder!
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Vielen Danken, Wout!

I just ordered an SRAM card from Vikant corporation for $79.99.

Will be able to go nuts with this thing in a few days...Muahahhahahaaaa!

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
I think they have to be in the system folder and when this doesn't work, try 98 mode, if you're on XP.


For DLLs the requirement is that they can be found by all applications that need 'm and when there is only one application using the DLLs I usually just put the DLLs with the application in the same directory as that is one of the directories windows will search. But the windows system directory is searched as well, so that's a good choice too.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thank you, Blue Hell.

NEWS FLASH:

I have been successfully loading patches from the collection on this site with MIDI Quest 10 XL.

This is a great MIDI editor librarian that can be used from within the sequencer.

Check it out at www.squest.com

Smile

Cheers,

-Alex
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