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how do you analyse tracks except for spectrum analysis?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: how do you analyse tracks except for spectrum analysis? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello, I wonder are there anything how you usually analyse your tracks as well as others?
I mean not just looking at spectrum and RMS, but maybe anything else concerning sound ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I do look at the spectrum at times when I made something abstract in the wave editor to see if I can find why things are hurting my ears or why it's sounding muddy ... but it doesn't show too much to me ... actually I find it best to just try some filters and listen what happens.

What would you use RMS values for?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I use the Soundforge spectrum analysis sometimes, but mainly to find the valleys and troughs in a partial mix. Usually because I'm trying to make something else fit in. This is usually because I've overworked the track and actually need to take some stuff out! Laughing
Sometimes I want to find the "dominant frequency" of a noisy part that might need re-tuning.
I also use the "find" function to make sure the mix hasn't topped out. ie; find -> largest peak. Then if the largest peak has the top taken off, I've mixed it too hot, and I go back and do it again.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks for your answers !
Blue Hell, I analyse RMS because its amplitude reflects perceived loudness better than peak amplitude.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

RMS with peak metering is pretty common but I don't find it useful for much more than track mixing. I've never really found RMS to be reliable because perceived loudness is biased; energy across the spectrum is perceived as much louder at low frequencies than high, and it is so with the physical output.

I use my ears a lot, to analyse a mix. It's a bit old fashioned but it seems to work for me.

And other than that, I will rarely use spectrum displays (pretty easy to whip up in Max/MSP, I have a patch I keep handy) to view particular phenomena.

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