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nathan
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject:
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Hello peeps.
I just got myself a secondhand tenori-on and it's amazing!
I am trying to get it to control my micro but i bumped into the problem that the micro only recieves data on 1 midichannel at a time. Is there a solution to this?
The tenori-on could play 16 sequences at a time; each on 1 midichannel. I was hoping they could be any kind of data. So far i can only get it to send out pitch.
This could be the tenori, but i am hoping i am missing knowledge on the NM1 too.
So; This could probably be a very stupid question.
My sincere apologies in that case.
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blue hell
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject:
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Don't know the tenori-on, but when it could send CC values you could use it to automate knobs in you patch.
When it is possible to restrict the sequences to certain note ranges you could maybe make patches with keyboard splits to get more than one sequence. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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nathan
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nathan
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject:
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so like in a lot of softwaresynths where you can assign single instruments/tracks to a single midichannel isnt possible with the NM1? |
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Wout Blommers

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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:25 am Post subject:
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I've tried using MidiMod and it works in a way, only the MidiNotes are added to each other, so Note 60 played together with another Note 60 will result in one Note 120
Strangely enough using only the NL2's Arpeggiators MidiNotes stay the same, only mute when played almost at the same time. In this situation all NL Slots send on the same channel.
Another finding is when in MidiMod (or G2 Midi set-up) only one MidiNote value is used together with more Gates, only the MidiNote/Gate (e.g. channel 1) will sound, where the other Gates remain silent...
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blue hell
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject:
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Wout Blommers wrote: | I've tried using MidiMod and it works in a way, only the MidiNotes are added to each other, so Note 60 played together with another Note 60 will result in one Note 120  |
Cute
You could try to use multiple output modules all set to the same channel I guess? When you mix signals like you did they will indeed add up. _________________ Jan
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blue hell
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject:
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nathan wrote: | i dont think it sends cc-values though. |
Some apparently, but it doesn't look like flexible or something
http://www.midisolutions.com/prodevp.htm , has been mentioned here before, looks like it could be useful here ... there are two versions I think a simpler and a more complex one? _________________ Jan
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: | ... You could try to use multiple output modules all set to the same channel I guess? When you mix signals like you did they will indeed add up. | I will do this, sometimes
Anyway, when using a KeyQuantiser module in the NM it will be interesting what this 'add MidiNote' thingy can produce using the 4 NL2 Arpeggiators. (Or the ones in the G2)
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nathan
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:
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thanks for your replies.
i gave up on the first idea.
i only own a mac, plus the sum of the cc's wouldnt really work i guess.
now i tried to hook up my tenori plus a doepfer pocketcontrol to the micro.
i did this through a newly bought midisolutions merger.
i was hoping the tenori could give the noteinfo and with the doepfer i could tweak the knobs. but no..
all the notes keep hanging or omething or like what wout had with the mentioned software midivalues are added up.
is what i want impossible? |
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blue hell
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject:
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nathan wrote: | So; This could probably be a very stupid question. |
Ok, that one has been answered sufficiently now, it's not a stupid question
Quote: | is what i want impossible? |
Don't think it to be impossible, did you have a look at the midi solutions thingy?
A don't really see a role for a MIDI merger here ... _________________ Jan
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject:
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You could look at other computer software that can do MIDI processing as well ... like Super Collider or ChucK - both are available for the Mac. Some programming would be involved then, but when doing e-music it never hurts to be able to do some programming. _________________ Jan
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nathan
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject:
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ok. it works!
the only thing i had to do is switch the doepfer as the power supplying signal into the midimerger.
Jan> why dont you see a role for the midimerger here?
i want the pocketcontrol to control the knobs of the clavia and the tenori to give the noteinformation.
and this worked now.
the tenori is the "keyboard" and the doepfer does the rest of the tweaking.
yahoo!
now i want to save up for a DSI Mopho to fill another layer (midichannel) of the tenori.
(sorry, i am quite new with midi and this tenori-on is making it quite fun)
offcourse i could use all 16 channels of the tenori in a softwaresynth, but i dont have any) |
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nathan
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: | You could look at other computer software that can do MIDI processing as well ... like Super Collider or ChucK - both are available for the Mac. Some programming would be involved then, but when doing e-music it never hurts to be able to do some programming. |
i understood Logic's Mainstage does the trick of triggering on different midichannels. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject:
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nathan wrote: | Jan> why dont you see a role for the midimerger here?
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Dunno .. just didn't see it, but when you do (and when it even works!) that's far more relevant Anyway reading your explanation, I probably just misunderstood your question, as it seems to make perfect sense now. _________________ Jan
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nathan
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject:
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omg i am such a sukkel! (and you were right jan)
the doepfer has a midithru offcourse. the midi-in of it allso works as a thru.
so i dont need the merger at all!
haha, guess i can sell it again rightaway.
so its just tenorion>doepferpc>NM1 |
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nathan
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject:
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Wout Blommers wrote: | I've tried using MidiMod and it works in a way, only the MidiNotes are added to each other, so Note 60 played together with another Note 60 will result in one Note 120
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Found out through a matrixsynth-post that a program called Noatikl can turn noteinfo into any cc-values. NICE!
http://www.intermorphic.com/tools/noatikl/index.html |
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