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Pehr

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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:21 am Post subject:
Interfaces to analog gear Subject description: some ideas how to connect your lunetta and modular together |
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I'm really eager to build myself a very simple modular style lunetta synth. First I thought of it like a stand-alone system, with just a audio out to my mixer.
But recently I've been thinking about how to connect my analog modular to a lunetta and I have come up with these ideas:
Analog -> digital:
Analog to digital converters (obviously ) - one could use comparator circuits or bare ADC-chips. I have a ADC0804 That I'll experiment with.
Op-Amp comparators - A very good design is the one from CGS39, but instead of the reference resistors one might use a pot to control the pulse width of the digital signal.
Window comparators - built from op-amps ( http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/Comparator4Level.GIF ) or perhaps the LM3914 could be used. I'll try a simplified version of Ians 5-pulser for that.
Digital -> Analog:
R2R digital to analog converters- ( http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/D2Aconvert.gif ), as suggested by unkle k in another thread. This may produce wavetable like sounds.
Attenuators (buffered), since a 0-12V square isn't that funny to send into a VCO
Mixers/filters - a good example for this is the WSG filter.
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andrewF

Joined: Dec 29, 2006 Posts: 1176 Location: australia
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject:
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I tried plugging the outputs of the CGS gated comparator in to CGS DC mixer and got a very CV good sequencer.
so a DC mixer would be a useful D2A section on a Lunetta either for mixing audio freq signals or pulses to get a control voltage
Going the other way, the LM3915/3914 would be interesting |
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loss1234

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Pehr

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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:14 am Post subject:
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andrewF wrote: | I tried plugging the outputs of the CGS gated comparator in to CGS DC mixer and got a very CV good sequencer.
so a DC mixer would be a useful D2A section on a Lunetta either for mixing audio freq signals or pulses to get a control voltage
Going the other way, the LM3915/3914 would be interesting |
one could perhaps use a switch to choose either AC or DC signal in the mixer.
loss1234 wrote: | uh-=oh
did someone say it's dangerous to take 0-12v signals straight out of a cmos chip and plug them into a vco?
i have been plugging my (12v powered) lunetta stuff into my modular for months now....
now i am worried.
am i going to fry something??
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No, I don't think it's dangerous and you prob will not fry anything.
But it's always nice to choose the range of frequency modulation. _________________ YouTube channel
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richardc64

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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:02 am Post subject:
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The danger is in going the other way: plugging +/- signals from a modular into single-supply cmos. _________________ Revenge is a dish best served with a fork... to the eye |
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Pehr

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richardc64

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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:38 am Post subject:
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Pehr wrote: | However, in order to get a square, the reference voltage should be very close to 0V, but not 0V, right? |
That would depend on the input waveform. For a saw or triangle perfectly symmetrical around 0v, a 0V reference will produce a squarewave -- or "close to" a square if the reference is close to 0.
But why settle for only square waves? Make the reference voltage variable and get any duty-cycle from square to very narrow pulses? _________________ Revenge is a dish best served with a fork... to the eye Last edited by richardc64 on Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:45 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Pehr

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aerogramma

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:56 am Post subject:
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what about plugging the outs of something like a baby seq into a crude 40106 oscillator array? woud that work?
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Pehr

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aerogramma

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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:26 am Post subject:
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Pehr wrote: |
one could get chords that way  |
mmm... very interesting ... how would you go about tuning single notes? pots? Resistors?
I've been thinking about having a series of fixed twelve note arrays being selected by switches... thus creating chords but i'm not sure yet of how to get the tuning right
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Pehr

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aerogramma

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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:25 am Post subject:
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and that would be the 'easy' part
what about having fixed tuning for each oscillators... thus achieving chords like you suggested, what could be a good to do that? |
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Pehr

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Rykhaard
Joined: Sep 02, 2007 Posts: 1290 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:56 am Post subject:
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Pehr wrote: | Yes, there could be fixed oscillators with a trimpot to set the frequency for the 12 noted in an octave.
The frequencies could then be divided to fill the whole frequency range desired.
That's how electric organs work.
However, I don't know how bad the oscillator drift of a CMOS oscillator is...  |
I checked this about 18 months ago. I had a couple of CD40106 oscillators set up to track their frequencies. Though the area temperature did not change, to check on that, the frequencies DID hold. I'm pondering this one again, on my Lunetta build. 2 x CD40106's would give me an octave. And as you said - divide them down for more octaves. Will play with it again and see what happens. |
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synthmonger
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:10 am Post subject:
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That's funny I've been greatly considering making a 2 octave synth using my 40106 vcos and dividers. That would be 8 40106s and 6 4066s though ;x
I need to get working on the pcb for these vco's dangit! |
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