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whomper

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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
Just finished building the master divider and after powering it up, it behaves in a strange way.
Out of the 16 steps, about half of them contain a constant 4.5v signal and the associating LEDs are lit. The steps are 1,2,5,6,7,10,11,12.
No input signal changes the above, it is like the module is stuck. _________________ Erez Yaary
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andrewF

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:10 am Post subject:
Re: Master Divider build/testing puzzle |
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The steps are 1,2,5,6,7,10,11,12.
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Hi
could you translate these steps to the markings on the PCB - 1A, 4B, 3C, etc?
then we can see which sections of the cct are not functioning |
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whomper

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:35 am Post subject:
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Certainly,
They "always on" parts are: 1D, 2A, 2D, 3A, 3D, 4C, 4D, 1A. (1,2,5,,6,9,12,13,14 and not as I originally stated).
The rest are "always off".
It does not matter if I inject something in the input, the situation of the always off and always on does not change.
I have the HCF4024E and the HCF4070BE.
Testing with a multimeter the outputs of the 4024, I am getting a clock in pin1, some voltage out of pin6, 15V in pin 14 and nothing else.
Might be a problematic 4024? _________________ Erez Yaary
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andrewF

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:41 am Post subject:
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Well it looks like your 4070s are okay, the leds that are on, should be on when they are not being driven by the 4024.
I guess the voltage on pin 6 is quite small? if it was over 2V or so, 1A's led should be off.
Check 4024 pin 2 is 0V.
Check 4024 pin 7 for continuity to 0V (beep! test)
Have a good look at your soldering.
If it all seems good, try another chip. The HCF4024 are suitable for this cct. (Not 74HCF4024 tho).
I think it is best to blame the chips after testing everything else...maybe cos I rarely use sockets and hate de-soldering chips .
I just looked the 4024 up in my CMOS sourcebook (Braga) and they show it as having 16 pins! Must be a special edition. Excellent book otherwise. |
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whomper

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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject:
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After a short email with Ken I understood I kept both the link from 4024 to 4070 as well as applied the patch to connect them.
Removing the link from the silkscreen side resolved the issue.
Thanks! _________________ Erez Yaary
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