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Easiest way to get positive and negative 6 volts??
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Easiest way to get positive and negative 6 volts?? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So I breadboarded the Forrest Mims percussion synthesizer and I think this simple circuit is worthy of a box! Is there an easy way to get -and+ 6 volts using batteries? Wall wart would be ok, but I would prefer the device be portable.

Also, would it be necessary to use a transformer to wire a line out in place of, or in addition to, the speaker to match line-in impedance?

Sorry for the basic questions.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i have never seen the forset mims drum circuit? i have read some of his material and i thought he was strictly a logic guy? any way you could use the old 2 9volts back to back if 9volts isn't to much? post the schemo im interested...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Easiest way to get positive and negative 6 volts?? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

*Appliancide* wrote:
So I breadboarded the Forrest Mims percussion synthesizer and I think this simple circuit is worthy of a box! Is there an easy way to get -and+ 6 volts using batteries? Wall wart would be ok, but I would prefer the device be portable.


Eight 1.5 volt batteries such as AA, C or D cells in series, declare the junction between the 4th and 5th to be zero volts (ground) and the top and bottom would be + and - 6 volts. respectively.

You can get 4 (and more) AA cell boxes for this at various places. Futurlec for starters - http://www.futurlec.com/Batteries-Holders.shtml

So you could get 2 of the holders for 4 AA cells. The "+" output of one would be +6 volts, its "-" output and the "+" output of the other holder would be connected together to supply the ground, and the "-" output of the second holder would be -6 volts.

You could also go the R/C rechargeable battery route (available at most hobby stores). I think they are all multiples of 1.2 volts though, so you'd need 10 of them to do it.

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Also, would it be necessary to use a transformer to wire a line out in place of, or in addition to, the speaker to match line-in impedance?


Yes, but line outputs generally are designed to supply much current. You really need a current output stage for driving speakers. In a pinch you can drive maybe headphones with it. I'd go with a proper amplifier - even something simple like a simple LM386 like this:

http://www.runoffgroove.com/littlegem.html

Hope this is what you wanted.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the info!

I haven't seen the schematic online. I'll see if can scan it at school. It's from the book "Timer, Op Amp & Optoelectric Circuits and Projects". Definitely worth checking out.

As far as the audio out goes, I just want a line level signal. I will be running it into an amp or a mixer.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's the circuit:

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There is also another Forrest Mims percussion synthesizer in the electronics learning lab manual which can be downloaded for free here

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks for sharing!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, there ya go. I thought you were trying to use a line out type of signal to drive a speaker, but it's the other way around. Embarassed

Mr. Mims is using the 386 here, so you're set. To get that line level signal out of it, try tapping where C5 joins R5. You'll probably need to add an attenuator for it, but no need for transformers (unless you're going into balanced XLR or something).

Forrest Mims wrote quite a few books on analog and digital electronics - like the Engineer's Notebook and the Circuit Scrapbook. He's also done a lot of stuff with sensors (did you know you can use a regular LED as a detector?). He was also editor for the Amateur Scientist column in Scientific American magazine. He has a website: http://www.forrestmims.org
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