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jmejia
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 Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:56 am Post subject:
Biggest baddest analog kick circuit? |
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| So this may or may not be posted in the right forum (depending on answers I guess?) But I'm looking for some suggestions for circuits to use for a kick drum modules. I'm really looking for an 808 style kick - but something else with that kind of power but maybe with more flexibility would be even better. I am aware of the metal box 808 clone, but I have no idea where that circuit comes from or how it sounds. I also have looked at various CGS circuits, and various Thomas Henry circuits - but I want suggestions! (Or audio examples!) What sounds good? |
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andrewF
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you might like to check this out.
a few members here are quite happy with it (and easy to build) |
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jmejia
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject:
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cool - haven't seen that one yet - i'll look into it.  |
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Funky40
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:37 am Post subject:
Re: Biggest baddest analog kick circuit? |
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| jmejia wrote: | | So this may or may not be posted in the right forum (depending on answers I guess?) But I'm looking for some suggestions for circuits to use for a kick drum modules. I'm really looking for an 808 style kick - but something else with that kind of power but maybe with more flexibility would be even better. I am aware of the metal box 808 clone, but I have no idea where that circuit comes from or how it sounds. I also have looked at various CGS circuits, and various Thomas Henry circuits - but I want suggestions! (Or audio examples!) What sounds good? |
I have built the xlargex 808 BD and know the metalbox8008 too.
The xlarge X sounds good and has additional controls,
but for patchings i prefered the simplier ( less pots) Metalbox. Not shure if they sound the same, buit both are very good.
http://xlargex.xl.funpic.de/mainframe.php?color=blue&m_t=projects_menu&c_t=projects_content&menu_id=4&content_id=3
the xlargexruns on linelevel i guess, it's not modularlevel
Also recommended is the Mahkato VCF. with some patchings it makes a very good Drummodule.
EM member stonerose has also some circuits up. Especially the Tom seems to be very cool.
He provides a pcb drawing for this |
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jmejia
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Nice! I hadn't seen that xlarge project. I'm all about it!
I'm also planning on building an MPS - and probably a few other circuits - seems like there a lot of nice stuff out there.
So I would say this is now officially posted in the wrong section of the forum - unless someone wants to chime in with some feedback about Ken Stone's Chime Simulator, Cynare or Drum Simulator. Anyone build/love them? Any comparisons to the Thomas Henry circuits (which I also haven't heard aside from his demos) |
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ericcoleridge
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| jmejia wrote: | | So I would say this is now officially posted in the wrong section of the forum - unless someone wants to chime in with some feedback about Ken Stone's Chime Simulator, Cynare or Drum Simulator. Anyone build/love them? Any comparisons to the Thomas Henry circuits (which I also haven't heard aside from his demos) |
I've gotten very good, 808-like kick sounds from the Drum Simulator. I built one DS with only one half of the dual PCB assembled, and it sounds like a really tight, bassy kick. I like it alot. When I assembled another PCB with both drums, they're more like mid to high tom sounds. Also very good. I tried some bigger caps, and got more of a mid-tom sound, but only by assembling half the PCB did I attain the kick sound(?).
Another reason I'd recommend this circuit, over some others, is it's simplicity. I really only need a dedicated drum module to make one good sound, so it's not much use to me having half a dozen controls, just a lot of extra work. |
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jean-louise
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| jmejia wrote: | | Any comparisons to the Thomas Henry circuits (which I also haven't heard aside from his demos) |
well i have no comparison (and no demo yet  ) but i recently built the TH bass++. i did it on stripboard and it's an easy build and quite small. i played two gigs with it triggering with a bassdrum trigger - worked fine and it sounded nice through a bassamp, rather dirty..
cheers
jan
edit: oh - i have a demo of it but it doesn't do justice to it i think |
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andrewF
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| ericcoleridge wrote: |
I've gotten very good, 808-like kick sounds from the Drum Simulator. I built one DS with only one half of the dual PCB assembled, and it sounds like a really tight, bassy kick. I like it alot. When I assembled another PCB with both drums, they're more like mid to high tom sounds. Also very good. I tried some bigger caps, and got more of a mid-tom sound, but only by assembling half the PCB did I attain the kick sound(?).
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This is quite curious, i know the drumSim is fine for tom sounds, but have never got anything like a kick out of it. Be interesting to see if someone else gets the same result by just building half the board.....umm which half? |
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ericcoleridge
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I know it's curious, it was sort of an accident. I was trying out different value resistors and caps on one side and started to get the impression that the two sides effected one another and were not isolated. When I changed a capacitor, on one side, it seemed to effect both drums. I then started trying different caps on both sides to see what different combinations would acheive. I was mostly trying to get a deeper tone, and it seemed to me one side was getting closer by sacrificing the other with smaller and smaller caps.
So, eventually I tried powering up and testing the PCB with only one side fully assembled to see if that would do anything...
I don't have access to the PCB right now, and it was awhile back-- But the way I remember it-- I left out the cap and resistors I had been substituting (just on one side). I got a deep, resonant, bass/low tom sound, with the 'tone' control setting a sharper decay than normal. It was a kick. |
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